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Warplanes: F-15SE Sneaking Up On the F-35
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July 25, 2010: For over a year now, F-15 manufacturer Boeing has been offering a "stealthy" aircraft called the F-15SE (Silent Eagle). The target market is nations that want some stealth, but do not want to pay the high price of the F-35. The F-15SE is an F-15E with better electronics (radar and countermeasures) and an airframe tweaked to make the aircraft harder for radar to detect. A CWB (Conformal Weapons Bay) carried beneath the body of the aircraft contains two internal weapons bays. Each bay can carry two missiles or smart bombs. Each of the four hard points in the CWB can carry two smaller SDB (Small Diameter Bombs). While not as stealthy as the F-22, the F-15SE claims to be as stealthy as the F-35, which costs 40 percent more. Another option is to have existing F-15Es rebuilt to F-15SE standards, at less than half the cost of a new F-15SE. Boeing has demonstrated the stealthiness to serious customers, and the F-15SE does indeed make it much more difficult for radars to spot it. Some foreign F-15E users have expressed an interest, especially as the cost of the F-35 keeps going up, with no end in sight for the increases. 

 

 

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Rufus       7/25/2010 9:31:49 AM
I really wonder who writes these crappy articles.
 
 
 
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Hamilcar    Air Power Australia?   7/25/2010 2:13:13 PM

I really wonder who writes these crappy articles.

 

 

The slippers are to slick down weapons and external fuel carry versus drag. While that affects the F-15 energy maneuver envelop favorably, at a severe cost in weapon carry, it does only minimal positive effect for signal management.  
 
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SMSgt Mac       7/25/2010 2:25:06 PM
RE: "Boeing has demonstrated the stealthiness to serious customers" should read (at best) "Boeing has demonstrated the nominal increases in signature management over baseline F-15 configurations to interested customers". 
 
I'm guessing safe enough to fly over your own territory against a second-tier or turd-world opponent.
 
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45-Shooter       7/28/2010 5:40:45 PM




I really wonder who writes these crappy articles.



 



 




The slippers are to slick down weapons and external fuel carry versus drag. While that affects the F-15 energy maneuver envelop favorably, at a severe cost in weapon carry, it does only minimal positive effect for signal management.  

 

H.


 

The F-15 is and always has been, a semi-stealthy plane. There are certain angles of aspect at which the radar return is greatly diminished. Those aspects were degraded by the extra 'winders on the inboard pylons and three 600 Gallon tanks. The FAST Packs changed that greatly. Moving the AMRAAMs inside a third conformal tank/weapons bay makes it much better. believe it or not, the F-15ES is probably better at LO than either Eurofighter or Rafael. Either of which has so many defects in the EMR Spectrum that neither is very LO at all. I once posted a list of easily visable defects on Rafael that should convince any who were looking of my position. Eurofighter is better, but not really LO.


I still find it amazing that so many here refuse to compare the euro canard-deltas with what is arguably their most significant competitor, the F-16 B50+! Neither is significantly more effective at LO and depending on the mission requirements, fails to meet the range performance. Such as when they have to carry Mk-84s and thus sterilize the inner wing hard points for fuel and thus range.


 
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Hamilcar       7/28/2010 6:01:37 PM









I really wonder who writes these crappy articles.







 







 










The slippers are to slick down weapons and external fuel carry versus drag. While that affects the F-15 energy maneuver envelop favorably, at a severe cost in weapon carry, it does only minimal positive effect for signal management.  



 



H.






 




The F-15 is and always has been, a semi-stealthy plane. There are certain angles of aspect at which the radar return is greatly diminished. Those aspects were degraded by the extra 'winders on the inboard pylons and three 600 Gallon tanks. The FAST Packs changed that greatly. Moving the AMRAAMs inside a third conformal tank/weapons bay makes it much better. believe it or not, the F-15ES is probably better at LO than either Eurofighter or Rafael. Either of which has so many defects in the EMR Spectrum that neither is very LO at all. I once posted a list of easily visable defects on Rafael that should convince any who were looking of my position. Eurofighter is better, but not really LO.




I still find it amazing that so many here refuse to compare the euro canard-deltas with what is arguably their most significant competitor, the F-16 B50+! Neither is significantly more effective at LO and depending on the mission requirements, fails to meet the range performance. Such as when they have to carry Mk-84s and thus sterilize the inner wing hard points for fuel and thus range.




One Delta One Zed Tango.
 
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cwDeici       7/30/2010 12:11:43 AM
My gut tells me the F-15SE is a poor buy, even though I don't really like the F-35.
 
I've noticed the above posts give reasons for what I subconciously remember. This article seems shitty, I very much doubt the F-15 can be made as stealthy as the F-35 as it was not built for it in the first place.
 
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