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November 26, 2008: The Taliban are trying to cut the U.S./NATO supply line from Pakistan to Afghanistan. To do this they have to halt the truck traffic going through the Khyber pass, which is the main road from Pakistan to landlocked Afghanistan. Some 75 percent of the supplies for foreign troops come via this road. The rest are flown in, or come via Russian and Central Asian railroads.

Normally, about 700 large trucks a day make the Khyber run, but several times this year, trucks have been attacked by Taliban gunmen, and destroyed, stolen or looted. This has halted traffic for as long as a week. This has not hurt U.S. or NATO troops, who, as is the military custom, maintain reserves of all supplies.

Moving goods across the border is a major business for Pakistan, and vital to the economy of Afghanistan. So both countries have responded to the Taliban threat by moving more troops and police in to guard the road. Local tribes have also sent more armed men along the route, as they have long done, to go after anyone who threatens the vital trade, and the money they get out of it.

Meanwhile, NATO and the U.S. have negotiated with Russia to allow supplies to move to Afghanistan via Russian rail lines and those of Central Asian nations. These only go as far as the Afghan border. There are no railroads in Afghanistan. Thus from the Uzbek border, the freight containers would have to be trucked south to where most of the U.S. and NATO troops are stationed. The U.S. is seeking a Russian contractor to arrange for the movement of 50,000 freight containers a year via the trans-Siberian railroad. Afghans would have the opportunity of forming trucking companies to move the containers south, along with civilian cargo that could also move in and out of the existing rail yard on the Uzbek border. This would amount to a large loss of business for Pakistani transportation firms, and is an incentive for the Pakistanis to protect the traffic going through the Khyber pass.

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Cannoneer No. 4    Do we get K2 back?   11/26/2008 7:15:46 PM
Negotiating with the Russians is all well and good, but they don't have a border with Afghanistan.  Somebody needs to be negotiating with the Uzbeks or Turkmen.
 
The first four years of OEF a lot of stuff moved from U. S. bases in Germany by rail across eastern Europe and Russia to Camp Stronghold Freedom, Karshi Khanabad Air Base Uzbekistan. 
 
NATO exists as a defensive alliance against the people they now wish to rely upon for a secure line of communications to Central Asia.  What does NATO do when Russia decides to take the rest of Georgia? 
 
 
 
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nyetneinnon    Got helium?   11/26/2008 8:45:09 PM
ASAP:
 
NATO/US needs a 1,500 ton class heavy-airlift capable airship capability for numerous missions.
 
In addition to enabling multi-fold flexibility in regards to planning and strategic options, it would be pretty cool tech, not to mention rather economical.
 
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Hurlbee36       11/27/2008 1:57:16 AM

ASAP:
NATO/US needs a 1,500 ton class heavy-airlift capable airship capability for numerous missions.
In addition to enabling multi-fold flexibility in regards to planning and strategic options, it would be pretty cool tech, not to mention rather economical.
You could almost ride a bike faster than a Zepplin, and they "might" be able to carry a small car barely out of missile range.  One 463L pallet on a typical military transport ACFT could weight up to 10,000 lbs.  It would be better to widen the Khyber Pass with carpet bombing.
As far as transporting cargo:
 http://www.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/web/080103-F-2034C-908.jpg" alt="It's going to be a good flight" border="0" width="270" />
 Maximum payload capacity of the C-17 is 170,900 pounds
 
 
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cwDeici       11/27/2008 3:27:46 AM
Just make up with that dictator next to the K2 airbase.
 
Oh and force Afghanistan to grant religious freedom and not execute gays. 

 
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cwDeici       11/27/2008 3:29:37 AM
googled: Uzbekistan
 
Make up with Uzbekistan. At least the country doesn't export too many terrorists. We can deal with their lack of human rights later.

 
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verong       11/27/2008 3:06:35 PM

googled: Uzbekistan

 

Make up with Uzbekistan. At least the country doesn't export too many terrorists. We can deal with their lack of human rights later.

convince the europeans that having the ability to land a a-380 worht the investment
 
Sincerely,
 
Keith




 
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serfer62    X   11/29/2008 12:47:53 PM
I was deployed at k2 (Karshi-Khanabad) '03-05. The base was no a terminus for rail. The tracks were about 6-10 miles away. All our base supplies were brought in containers or air. The containers were then converted into showers, heads, offices and eventually 2 story barracks.
 
Liberty Bridge (used by the Russians to escape Iraq) was 124 miles south at Termez. I don't know what happened to that system when the Uzbeks cancelled base useage in 05. A lot of the air stuff then went to Kryistan.
 
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verong       11/29/2008 1:54:50 PM
Hey Folks,
 
Why not just use a reaper over the area?
 
Sincerely,
 
Keith
 
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cwDeici       12/4/2008 5:12:42 AM

I was deployed at k2 (Karshi-Khanabad) '03-05. The base was no a terminus for rail. The tracks were about 6-10 miles away. All our base supplies were brought in containers or air. The containers were then converted into showers, heads, offices and eventually 2 story barracks.

 

Liberty Bridge (used by the Russians to escape Iraq) was 124 miles south at Termez. I don't know what happened to that system when the Uzbeks cancelled base useage in 05. A lot of the air stuff then went to Kryistan.

6-10 miles doesn't SOUND long. Truck it for an hour or extend the rail line?

 
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verong       12/4/2008 10:38:05 PM




I was deployed at k2 (Karshi-Khanabad) '03-05. The base was no a terminus for rail. The tracks were about 6-10 miles away. All our base supplies were brought in containers or air. The containers were then converted into showers, heads, offices and eventually 2 story barracks.



 



Liberty Bridge (used by the Russians to escape Iraq) was 124 miles south at Termez. I don't know what happened to that system when the Uzbeks cancelled base useage in 05. A lot of the air stuff then went to Kryistan.




6-10 miles doesn't SOUND long. Truck it for an hour or extend the rail line?




easier said than done
Sincerely,
 
Keith
 
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