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Subject: Greatest Military Leader Of All Time
Ad    11/30/2003 11:19:39 AM
This counts for everyone, from Hannibal to Paton.
My personal choice would be Wellington, as the only defeat was suffered in the siege of Seringapatam in 1799 when he was a 29 year old colonel of the 33rd. He successfully defeated all of Napoleans Marshells and the little Corsican himself.
However, if you disagree post your choice and your reasons. Cheers
 
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Ad    RE:Greatest Military Leader Of All Time   3/25/2005 10:46:37 PM
Alexander forged a great empire. His military tactics however verged on the over simplistic. Form a wedge to drive up the middle and break the line in two. Then flank. His reputation as a demon went a long way to. Morale or a lack of it in the enemy ranks is always beneficial. Genius in its simplicity, yes. Does this create a military genius out of Alexander? No.
 
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Heorot    RE:Greatest Military Leader Of All Time   3/28/2005 5:50:20 AM
John Churchill, son of Sir Winston Churchill, 1st duke of Marlborough must qualify above Rommell and oters suggested here. Here is a description of just one of his victories. The battle was fought at the village of Ramillies, 13 miles north of Namur (in modern Belgium), between a 62,000-man Allied army under Marlborough and a 60,000-man French army under François de Neufville, Duke de Villeroi. Under orders from Louis XIV to seek battle, the French reached the plain of Ramillies ahead of the Allies but deployed unwisely along the entire length of a 4-mile (6.5-kilometre) ridge, the centre of which was at the villages of Ramillies and Offus. A strong Allied attack on the French left forced Villeroi to shift reinforcements from his centre. Marlborough, however, called off this attack because the marshy ground would not permit cavalry support. Half of the battalions from this wing then marched, undetected by the French, to the centre to support the final concentrated Allied assault. This smashed the overextended French army. The French lost about 17,000 killed, wounded, or captured and by the next morning were thoroughly dispersed. Allied losses numbered about 5,000 killed and wounded.
 
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cristocrat    RE:Greatest Military Leader Of All Time   3/29/2005 8:44:57 PM
The greatest military leader is Alexander of Macedonia who took a handful of hoplites and conquered the known world.
 
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Gothic Irishmen    alexander   4/3/2005 9:08:26 PM
alexanders tactics where revlotutionary for his time using calvary the way he did and the phalanx which his father introduced to the macedonian army and above all alexander grew up an athlete and had learned military from the two best of his time his father philip and the thebian general Epaminondas. But i got 2 questions whatever happened to his son alexander IV? and what did spartado this whole time when he had every city state except sparta?
 
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acalepha    That's easy.   4/3/2005 11:12:58 PM
The greatest military leader of all time was Sir Isaac Brock who defended Canada against the numerically superior and better equipped American army of 1812. He captured American forts on the great lakes by sheer guts. He conducted a proper reconaissance and used the acquired intelligence to get into the American General's head and get him to surrender in his fort (with superior artillery and manpower) without a fight. Brock then defeated the Americans a second time at Queenston Heights personally leading his brigade up a hill and dislodging the Americans and forcing them into the river below. Brock took a ball to the chest and died soon after. I can't think of another general with as much courage as he.
 
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Heorot    RE:That's easy. Percy Hobart.   4/28/2005 2:55:42 PM
and if you've never heard of him, shame on you.
 
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Empereur    RE:Greatest Military Leader Of All Time   5/7/2005 2:32:47 AM
Napoléon without a doubt. Wellington was afraid of Napoleon. He even state the latter is the greatest general of all time. Also Wellington didn't win Waterloo it was the Germanic people who does; counting as 75% of the total forces. The contingent consist of 3 countries: the British, Germany and Netherlands. Each formed 1/3 but the two latter represent the bigger third while Wellington the smaller. Germany alone could have won this battle but the British couldn't without Germany. check this links link link link link link link link link
 
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gf0012-aust    RE:Greatest Military Leader Of All Time   5/7/2005 2:51:27 AM
"Napoléon without a doubt." he pales into insignificance compared to Subodai or Genghis Khan.
 
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Empereur    RE:Greatest Military Leader Of All Time   5/7/2005 10:10:42 PM
"he pales into insignificance compared to Subodai or Genghis Khan." What are u saying? Did you realised that by the way you answer you totally lack any respect and value to this GREAT person. Napoleon employ the best tactic ever on the battlefield. All around the world the leaders study his tactics and they soon copy them. Napoleon not only he was a millitary Genius but also an amazing politician and excellent manager to integrate things such as Code of law and meter systems among others. Few if not none was able to master all of this in the history of human kind.
 
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gf0012-aust    Greatest Military Leader Of All Time   5/7/2005 10:32:08 PM
"What are u saying? Did you realised that by the way you answer you totally lack any respect and value to this GREAT person." I know exactly what I'm saying. I'm not according the same degree of respect and value that you ascribe - that's the difference. In terms of real estate napoleon was nowhere near as collective as subodai, as far as managing and co-ordinating multiple large armies thousands of kilometeres apart - as part of a co-ordinated concurrent military process to achieve an objective - Napoleon never achieved that, in fact it was not really achieved at such a level by any other military commander until ww2. subodai was instrumental in establishing officer rank by meritocracy - some 400 years before napoleon was born, he defined the issue of fire and movement in its classical sense. - napoleon didn't. Napoleon never fielded armies against similar odds. he is one of the greatest european military leaders - but he's not the greatest overall IMHO.
 
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JIMF    RE:Greatest Military Leader Of All Time-Question?   5/8/2005 6:08:15 PM
Is anyone familiar with the late 18th century Russian General Suvorov. I've never seen any books in English about him. Tolstoy refers to him in War and Peace, and the Russians had (have) a medal called the "Order of Suvorov". I've heard him referred to as the Russian Napoleon. Any information would be appreciated.
 
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Pars    Book about Suvarov   5/12/2005 6:19:28 PM
There is an excellent book about Suvarov. "Eagle Over the Alps" by Christopher Duffy from the Emperor's Press. It is about Suvarov's campaigns in Italy and Switzerland at 1799. Sadly for wargamers, Napoleon was at Egypt in that time. They could never face each other in the battlefield.
 
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Pars    Greatest Military Leader Duo Of All Time; Subudai-Jebe Noyan   5/12/2005 6:34:57 PM
Subudai is really one of the unknown geniusses of military history. He was the most talented and trusted general of Genghis Khan. Unlike many of the other Mongol generals he was not from the nobility. One of his talents was his extraordinary memory. He could draw a mapof everywhere he has traveled. That is why he always led the vanguard or expedionary armies. He was especially dangereous when he had shared command with Jebe Noyan (Noyan means noble). They were the best commander pair in the history. Subudai had extraordinary battlefield skills. And Jebe Noyan had the agressiveness and killing insticts. Also being good friends helped. I think no general from nobility other than Jebe wanted to work with Subudai. They served together from China to Russia. Subudai was the first Mogol commander who appreciated Chinese fire power. Maybe one day I can write more detailly about them.
 
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gf0012-aust    RE:Greatest Military Leader Duo Of All Time; Subudai-Jebe Noyan   5/12/2005 6:39:10 PM
"Subudai is really one of the unknown geniusses of military history." Schwarzkopff referred to Subodai as a "21st Century General/Theatre Commander stuck in the 12th Century" - (sic)
 
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Pars    Schwatzkoph and Stephen the Great: the underrated leaders.   5/12/2005 7:09:34 PM
Schwarzkopff was also one of the underrated commanders. There was nearly 20 different nations of that alliance. Numereous things could have gone wrong. He did a first class job. But he will be seldomly remembered in the future. Like another greatest military leader of all time. Stephen the great. He was the King of Moldovia. He fought against the strongest military powers of his age Ottoman, Poland, Hungary, Crimea and against some of the best miltary leaders of his age Mehmed II and Mathias Corvinus and he did not lose a single cm of Moldovia. And Moldovia was a small country with a small militia army But if anyone puts him to rightly deserved top 20 greatest military leaders list 99% of the readers will say "who is Stephen the Great; I never heard of him."
 
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