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Subject: Interesting facts from WW2?
fall out    10/18/2004 1:25:31 AM
Anyone got any? I know that after Germany invaded Poland they had run out of ammo and were in an extremely vulnerable position yet the allies did nothing.

hitler admitting later that germany would've had to "run back with our tails between our legs" had the allies done something about the rhine occupation.

the US economy being MUCH bigger than every single other economy in the world COMBINED after the end of WW2!!!!!!!!

anyone else got some interesting facts, quotes, figures, etc from WW2?

Fall Out :))
 
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Ehran    RE:Interesting facts from WW2?   10/18/2004 5:44:06 PM
joint commonwealth air training program. canada trained more than a quarter million aircrew during the war. canada also built the 3rd largest navy (in hulls) from scratch in 6 years. the only war memorial in london commemorating foreign troops is dedicated to the canadians.
 
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giblets    RE:Repaying our Debt   10/19/2004 8:55:22 AM
Britain was 3 months away from Bankrupcy at the end of wwII. Britain is still paying back loans to the USA for WW2, the last one will be in 2006, from Hansard (proceedings of the house of commons). The Minister of State, Department of Social Security (Lord Mackay of Ardbrecknish: The principal currently outstanding under the United States Government's War Loan to the UK Government amounts to 1,124 million dollars. The UK pays interest of 2 per cent. per annum on the amount outstanding. Annual payments by the UK on the debt currently amount to 153 million dollars, comprising both interest and principal. The final repayment under the loan will take place in 2006.
 
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AlbanyRifles    RE:Interesting facts from WW2?   10/19/2004 2:10:44 PM
Just a few When the Pentagon was under construction in 1941 & 1942, plywood (from cheap pine) was a strategic material that was used in boat and aircraft production. To make the forms for pouring concrete at the construction site, the Corps of Engineers used teak and mahogany since those types of wood were used mostly for civilian furniture and automobile construction. By July 1944, the US Army had enough vehicles to give a ride to every uniformed and civilian member of the US Armed Forces (That is over 17 million people!). When the mobilization began in the US, it killed the tourism industry in Florida. The USAAF turned to those hotels as barracks space and used them for ground school training for several years?.with no airfield anywhere around. Right before it became the 82d Airborne Division, the 82d was the 82d Motorized Division.
 
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Ehran    RE:Interesting facts from WW2?   10/20/2004 12:47:52 PM
was reading a book on the OSS once and they nearly ambushed the president's motorcade once. their training base was not far from camp david. one night they had a bunch of poles out to practise a convoy ambush and someone pooched the map reading. the first thing along the road was the presidential motorcade and they very nearly jumped out at it loaded with blanks.
 
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brizzydude    RE:Repaying our Debt   10/21/2004 2:14:29 AM
this oversight has been corrected is some part as Lizzie opened a memorial to the aussies last year. I think it's hyde park.
 
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Ehran    RE:Repaying our Debt   10/21/2004 12:02:21 PM
It's good to hear the ANZAC's got their bit of recognition. was the monument for the anzac or just the aussies? hate to think the new zealanders got left out.
 
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ozigrunt    RE:Repaying our Debt   10/21/2004 7:00:25 PM
During the 'Phony War', early 1940, The French made a divisional + 'raid' into Germany around the Lorraine sector. It was virtually unopposed and went about 20 KLMS into Germany (Germany was massing on the Belgium border). Of course the French lost they nerve and withdraw back to the safety of the Maginot line. If they had persisted, or more particularly reinforced success, they would have caused a major disruption the Germans plans. Through out the Polish campaign and the phony war Germany was extremely vulnerable (Hitler had to continually ?pull rank? on the German High Comd) . They only achieved success by concentration of forces. In Poland they were assisted by Poland?s lack of strategic mobility. In France they were assisted by the French mind numbing defensive attitude and posture.
 
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ozigrunt    RE:Repaying our Debt   10/21/2004 7:09:59 PM
Spec for spec the British 3.5inch a.a. and the German 88mm are almost identical. All British arty were issued solid shot a/tk rnds for 'local defence' including the 3.5 and the 25lb. Early in the Nth African campaign some 3.5's were used to devastating effect against German Armour. Of course the thought occurred to the bright sparks but the order come down from Comd Royal Arty that A/A was only to be used for in designated duty and not a/tk. An opportunity lost to stodgy thinking and sticking to the 'rules' .
 
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DropBear    RE:brizzydude   10/21/2004 10:04:22 PM
Who paid for the memorial us (Oz), or the Poms??
 
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DropBear    RE:brizzydude   10/21/2004 10:41:57 PM
Another thing... Do you think Brissy kicks arse over Melbourne? We need people like you on the Oz page/forums.
 
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fall out    RE:brizzydude   10/22/2004 12:50:27 AM
"Another thing... Do you think Brissy kicks arse over Melbourne? We need people like you on the Oz page/forums" haha, still feeling a bit insecure Drop? Go on, admit it, you really do love Melbourne! ;))
 
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DropBear    RE:WW2 fact   10/22/2004 1:16:15 AM
Norwegian merchant sailor, Birger Lunde (second mate radio operator), had the dubious misfortune of being torpedoed three times, aech one a year apart. Freighter "Taranger" 1941, "Blink" 1942 and "?" 1943. He survived the war, to continue as a merchant sailor.
 
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ozigrunt    RE:Tennoheika Banzai!   10/22/2004 4:54:45 AM
Patriot, you better define 'best infantry'. Although they were tough (and I won't say tougher than, Germans, Russians, Yanks, Poms, Aussies or anyone else) they didn't achieve their aim. To live to fight another day is not just a good personal objective but is also good tactics. On numerous occasions they both attacked and defended with superior numbers and still lost. Blind obedience and dedication is to be admired but it does make the best soldiers. In fact I think a good case could be made against the Japs been the best. But this is not the theme of the thread. ?Contrary to Western nations (or most nations)'s military doctrine, the Japanese put their best and brightest young men in the infantry.? The war to end all wars most certainly gave an impetus and a social justification for bright young men to seek fame and fortune else where in the western democracies during the between the wars years. Economic prosperity also made the military less attractive for the very brightest. However, in Germany and Russia the social, national and economic benefits kept the best and brightest in uniform (which is one a the reasons Stalin use to purge the army and never trust them ? even after winning the war). Thanks for the explanation of Banzai - I knew it was their battle cry but nevr knew its meaning.
 
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ozigrunt    RE:Interesting facts from WW2?   10/22/2004 4:58:28 AM
Allied POW officers were paid whilst imprisoned by the Japs the same as the equivalent jap rank.
 
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Ehran    RE:Interesting facts from WW2?   10/22/2004 12:15:13 PM
I have never been a fan of Patton but he was certainly right about one thing. a soldier's duty is to help the soldiers on the other side die for their country not to die himself. the japs were brave to a fault and more than willing to die in their holes. wehrmacht made you bleed for the ground in front of the hole then fell back to the next line of holes and did it to you all over again.
 
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