Military History | How To Make War | Wars Around the World Rules of Use How to Behave on an Internet Forum
Leadership Discussion Board
   Return to Topic Page
Subject: Patrol Order
newjarheaddean    11/10/2010 9:53:23 PM
AHOY, this is a segment from the planning section of my Fragmented Fighting Facts aka Tri-F, i.e. a collection of my military notes, one can google it up. Like with the rest of Tri-F I've lade out the info as I be-leave one might need to recall it. Part D) PATROL ORDER: Last updated 02/10/09 This is Information pertaining to patrols, you will always have alternates, even a complete alternative sheet. CALL SIGN/SHACKLE SHEET: this is all information used in communicating i.e. call signs for mission success, failure, abort, medivac, all secure, friendly or foe WIA KIA MIA, and or POWs etc. there would be a section called a Shackle sheet for encoding of numbers. 1) Unit information – call sign, name used to refer to your unit. Frequency, channel or phone number. 2) Unit position – call sign, grid coordinates (Gs), could also be address. Feature of recognition (F.O.R.) some sort of land mark for others to find your location, or for you to use upon return. 3) Time of departure - time patrol is set to start. Use 24 hour and synchronize with all units or Marines involved. 4) Point of departure – call sign, Gs, F.O.R., Estimated time of arrival (ETA) that is when you should be there and prepared to leave. 5) Line of departure – call sign, Gs, F.O.R., E.T.A., in this case E.T.A. is when you will arrive at line of departure. At which time contact with foe is not only possible it is likely. 6) Patrol routes - call signs, cardinal or azimuth direction, distance or time to remain on course. F.O.R. and suggested formations. There are multiple routes and you need reminding that you are on track. There for you will have call signs and features (plural) of recognition. Usually F.O.R. indicates a change in formation. So unit is better situated for different terrain. 7) Check points – call signs, Gs, F.O.R., ETA. Check points are usually in the range of 1km in jungle terrain. They are intersections of patrol routes; normally indicate a change in course. You well check your location and orientation do a roll call, check weapons, equipment, make any adjustments to schedules at these points. 8) Rally points - call signs, Gs, F.O.R. rally points are locations Marines can regroup with one another if they get separated. There is a final rally point that is used for regrouping after your unit has gone though objective. Because you will often scatter and leave objective in all directions, so witnesses cannot make guess as to your general direction of travel, or your next objective. This also gives each Marine chance to spot any enemy scouts or reinforcements. If you are spotted on your way to the final rally point. You should lead foe away. The Final rally point dose have an ETA because you will not won’t to wait around there very long. You also have a password or signal and avenue or direction of approach, also approach time intervals. Example, at hour or half hour marks. A rule of thumb is one or two can brake all the rules, many not any. This keeps you from killing some poor delirious just trying to get there bastards. One or two troops are not going to take your position. Large units on the other hand have no excuse. (PPP projected protective party) You can also post a Reception unit out in direction of approach (like a door butler). This unit can also serve as a maneuver counter attack unit if Final rally point is attacked. Note in some circumstances (deep in enemy terrain with only one extraction point) it is safer for the entire unit to withdrawal from objective as a fighting column. 9) Objective – call sign, Gs, F.O.R. for air operations, features that stand out from the ground may not make good landmarks from the air, especially at night. These are the sort of things you should be looking for: Coastline in distinctive stretches, especially with breaking surf or white sand beaches, river mouths over 100 meters wide or sharp promontories or inlets. Bends in rivers more than 100 meters wide. Heavily wooded banks will reduce their visibility. Canals, their straight course and consistent width make them easy to spot, except where the surrounding countryside follows a uniform pattern. Lakes at least a ½ square mile in area with a distinctive shape or feature. Woods and forests a square mile or more in size, with clear-cut boundaries or some special identifying feature. Major road and highway intersections. Railways, especially when there is snow on the ground. The general plan of attack; Who, what, where, when, why, how. In defense a unit doubles or triples its combat power. 3/1 ratio applies not just to Infantry but equipment. Ratio varies with size of force, platoon level maybe 10-1, theater 1-1 or 1-2 because only small part of terrain fought over at a time. But with larger ratio less time to win. Information good, terrain/weather good day raid. Information bad, terrain/weather bad night raid. The worst the weather, longer the battle, more fatigue, greater the casualties
 
Quote    Reply

Show Only Poster Name and Title     Newest to Oldest
newjarheaddean    new guy    11/10/2010 10:13:48 PM
http://www.strategypage.com/CuteSoft_Client/CuteEditor/Images/emdgust.gif" align="absmiddle" border="0" alt="" />
 
AHOY,
 
I'm new, sorry for the dubble post on the topics board, lets all stick to this one.  I can't figure out how to delete the first.
 
G-day!
 
Quote    Reply

newjarheaddean    new guy   11/21/2010 4:15:38 PM
AHOY,
 
i thought it was strange to have so many fews here but not to many on my full version of the Planing section of Tri-F.
 
it was posted twice by me quite by accident, in "dirty little links" under Fragmented Fighting Facts, part I.
 
I feel lucky to still have my member ship. And for the record, I am not a troll, nor would i have the tech savvy to do so.
 
everyone who is someone (and lots who are not) knows who, and where i am.
 
G-day! 
 
Quote    Reply

Reactive    Rambo   11/21/2010 4:42:18 PM
A Rambo is you!!
 
 
May I ask (out of interest) what prompted you to write this? Are you an ex serviceman yourself etc trying to compile a list of training doctrine?
 
I confess that I think it might make good television if we pinned a camera to your head and sent you into burna/north korea armed to the teeth?
 
R
 
Quote    Reply

newjarheaddean    Reactive   12/28/2010 12:03:05 PM
AHOY,
 
well all righty then, a kind comment for once, like a cool breeze. 
 
your welcome for those live saving tips. why do you suppose the Gov. has not gotten around to changing those ridiculous manuals they publish so many years ago? IMO THEY lol want it all forgotten. And IMO your generation is quite okay with that it seems. I don't think you well be able to defeat the machines with your creativity on the spur of the moment. 

I had a thought the other day about how some of these women with all the plastic surgery would look alot like machines going threw the airport security scanners. Yesterday while going threw Time mags i found the article on William Gibson's latest book.
 
And they mentioned his book Neuromancer "is a vicious, violently intelligent vision of a future made from the broken shard of the present. Urban sprawl has overrun the planet. Prosthetics, neural implants and artificial intelligence have made the distinctions between human and computer, etc. problematic at best
 
Rambo no not me, I'm the Marine PFC that told the Marine Corps it was out of step in 1982 and then went out and proved it. By writing Tri-F. So we were not ready for the Russians in Afghanistan in 1979 and IMO we're playing war now. 

If you really pen anyone down on the tactics etc. They turn to that political cover argument about to many body bags is bad for reelection. But that is just a bonus side argument. THE ENEMY WELL WAIT US OUT ALL RIGHT, IN THEIR HOMES i.e. THEY ARE NOT AMONG US.
 
I've always asked to have one of those cameras on my head. I tell everyone just prove me wrong about what i say.
Me and the old man are planning on doing one of those livecam sites. 


"I well bet my lucky star"
 
 G-day!
 

 
 

 
Quote    Reply

newjarheaddean    ANYWAYS   1/31/2011 11:06:45 PM
AHOY,
 
just got threw posting on American Kafir's post about capabilities of Egyptian pilots, on Egypt discussion board. He has now returned after four or five years he said. 
 
So lets see if Necromancer (a form of magic) and a members call sign well return. I noticed his call sign looking at his replies with Herc the Merc's. Who's post about female snipers was resently bumped.
 
I found the call sign Necromancer interesting due to me mentioning Neuromancer (futuristic cyborgs) earlier. 
 
"I well bet my lucky star"
 
G-day! 
 
Quote    Reply

newjarheaddean    heraldabc   2/11/2011 11:13:48 AM

AHOY,

 

I recently found a member with the call sign (heraldabc) posting the fallowing about me.

 

 

NJH is flying under false colors and he is not completely rational. Heorot and I agree on few things, but we both agree on this, that Newjarheadean has his lid screwed on so tight, that's its misthreaded.

 

 

First of all heraldabc the initials for my call sign would be NJD as in Dean i.e. teaching the Corp the old John Wayne ways, that IMO are being used by the Taliban and others to fight this Buck Rogers little army gang, aka the U.S. Marine corps. I can say that because I am a U.S. Marine. And like the old joke I?m much more dangerous because unlike an active duty Marine I have no one telling me what to do any more LOL. I was born as they say or earned my title back in 1982 at MCRD San Diego Ca.

 

I also noticed you used the capital (N) and single (D) spelling too.

 

I don?t bother researching everything about other members or trying to find every little fault to point out, like it appears you do. And you must be just talking out your stern, when it comes to me, due to the fact if you had read anything on my blog you would know I?m not holding back on anything, except my name.

 

TO PROTECT FAMILY AND FRIENDS SOME SERVING TODAY.

 

I well say this about my blog, there is a list of my post that shows how many times the post has been read, and some of the best according to me do not show that they have been read. Maybe my blog is being filtered like I have been suggesting.

 

So let me suggest something to you and all members here, that may have recently found common ground based on your little ?official revealed facts? world being shattered by me. And that is that you can?t find anyone else on the entire so called wild, wild, west, internet that has provided the info I have, not even on the so called terrorist sites imo disinformation sites.

 

As for you I find it odd that someone who apparently knows so much about so many subjects never has mentioned (that I?ve read) serving in the armed forces yourself. It makes me wonder if your just good at Googleing up things. Maybe abc is used because you?re a small group of people.

 

I am for real, bub, and always tell the truth about myself and the world I see, even when it hurts. THERE IS NOTHING FALSE ABOUT ME. But go ahead and join the masses that have been trying to put me under for 27 years. And keep claiming you support the troops as you watch them load up in the armored volt to go on another Russian roulette parade. 

 

?I well bet my lucky star?

 

G-day!

 
Quote    Reply



 Latest
 News
 
 Most
 Read
 
 Most
 Commented
 Hot
 Topics