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Subject: Propaganda Can Be Really, Really Useful
SYSOP    3/27/2015 6:20:34 AM
 
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keffler25       3/27/2015 12:49:16 PM
I question the assertion of ANY internal carriage on the H6K. The information I trust suggests that the bomb bay was deleted for electronic warfare (countermeasures and attack systems) and fuel which the PLAAF regards as more important than internal carriage. The ordnance carriage appears to be external and on pylons which makes the Harbin a radar duck and easy shooting.
 
The CJ-10 also is curious (for a TOMAHAWK by any name is still the same, despite the claims of 1500 Russian expatriate engineer traitors that they used the KH-55 ass a start point to give the Chicoms such a weapon to launch from the Badger clone the Chinese keep making (because they don't know how to make any other kind of strategic bomber?)    
 
 
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sublimebohemian       3/27/2015 6:16:18 PM
Like a Swiss army knife for internal policing..?
 
Jam stuff. (propaganda from dissident entities) Mid-level Cmnd n' Ctrl? Fly endlessly. (extra fuel for doing the aforementioned tasking inside China's rather large surface area)
 
Finally it can bomb some stuff too! Icing on the cake! Nothing lifts morale in the flying Chinese propaganda sweatshop like popping off a missile to kill some pesky Tibetan terrorists? Maybe some good ol' Islamic terrorists.. Uyghyr or Kazakh flavored or perhaps even the rare and elusive Chinese Tartar?
 
[...] bomb bay was deleted for electronic warfare (countermeasures and attack systems) [...] The ordnance carriage appears to be external and on pylons which makes the Harbin a radar duck and easy shooting. 
 
Counter measures for shoulder fired to obscure IR signature? Who of the aforementioned adversaries is going to have a serious radar to gat this duck at operational altitude?
 
Every Asian I've ever known, know matter the flavor, love to penny pinch. They keep the cheap platform for internal ops. They'll fork out the money if their macro scale game of go goes to shit. Maybe they'll mexicanize some jetliners into some gangsta edition® bombing platforms.
 
This sounds very economical. Stereotypical lower middle class 1st gen Chinese immigrant mother approves of this platform for housekeeping.
 
To the even less trained eye the H-6k looks pretty rawr rawr. So, internally I bet the raving conditioned nationalistic crowd are all like: [damn that made my dick move] "Go China!''
 
Just some thoughts from the yuppie.
 
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keffler25       3/27/2015 8:49:55 PM
All very interesting except the Harbin in this configuration was designed to attack first island ring targets from the safety of the Chinese air frontier.
 
It would be currently further useful against the Koreas, eastern Russia and Southeast Asia, as well as *India until the Indian local air defenses improve. The H6K especially is a specialized cruise missile carrier, not a standard strike bomber. Part of those EW systems is a satellite uplink to the Chinese Baidou RORSAT and the GPS satellite constellations.
 
Presumably the next missile we will see carried after the CJ-10 will be some form of supersonic/hypersonic anti-ship or land attack missile.
 
The actual mission orientation of this Badger clone is as a first stage launcher for some kind of air breather ram effect jet propelled missile.
 
THAT is the only reason to still build this piece of flying JUNK. It is the only thing the Chinese know how to build that can emulate the B-52/B-1 as a missile carrier.
 
Going the other way, the B-1 Lancer is the US candidate as the scram-jet missile carrier.   
 
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sublimebohemian       3/27/2015 11:31:30 PM
Seems like a great target for a stealth interceptor?
 
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keffler25       3/28/2015 1:15:50 PM
If the go ahead for Chinese airspace intrusion is accepted as a given... yes.
Seems like a great target for a stealth interceptor?

 
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