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Subject: 6 Day War
gf0012-aust    4/18/2006 10:16:15 PM
One of the things I've never understood is why the Soviets gave the egyptians such bad initial intel.

ie, in May 67 they told the egyptians that the israelis had mobilised 10 brigades on ths syrian border - this was obviously wrong as not only would it have depeleted the israeli forces - but it would have left the israeli west flank completely vulnerable.

its almost as if the soviets were trying to encourage the egyptians to move pre-emptively.

has anyone been able to establish the sov motive for this intel feed?

nothing has been published from the russian side since the demise of the cold war (nothing that I've seen anyway)

curious on opinions ...
 
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gf0012-aust    RE:6 Day War   4/24/2006 4:20:01 AM
bump - surely one of you military geniuses has an opinion? ;)
 
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Carl S    RE:6 Day War   4/29/2006 11:37:01 AM
Theres still a lot of critical data not public on that war. In the US we still dont know all the crtitical detaisl of the Irali attack on the US ship Liberty. With the current suppresion of historical research in Russia it may be a very long time before we do know. If ever.
 
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S-2    RE:6 Day War/Intel Dumps   4/29/2006 11:58:01 AM
gf0012aust, you're correct about the intel-partially. However, it was given by the U.S.S.R. to Syria, not Egypt. The Jewish Virtual Museum indicates that the intel to Syria followed an air clash over the Golan in which six Syrian MiGs were destroyed. Further, there seems that an ongoing downstream irrigation dispute involving the Jordan River served as a backdrop to Syrian concerns. I guess the supposition is that the Soviets, embarassed by the performance of their weaponry in proxy hands, wished to raise the ante in the belief that a greater effort would defeat Israel-thus restoring Soviet credibility. Using the irrigation issue as a cause celebre amongst the Syrians, the Soviets indicated the massive Golan reinforcement by Israel- as you indicated, untrue. In turn, although the United Arab Republic had only recently dissolved, the mutual defense treaty between Syria and Egypt remained in effect- and was activated by the Syrian request for Egyptian assistance. link
 
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Thomas3    gf0012-aust    6/1/2006 8:47:44 AM
IIRC: The Israelis made a very effective confusion: They drove their tanks back and forward over all Israel, so the observers had a hard time counting which tanks were where: "was it three moving north, two moving east, 5 moving south - or was it 4 moving south, 3 moving east and 7 in reality moving north - and how did they stay there" The miscount seem to be a "Tordenskiold". The observers had seen some move forward during day and might not have caught them moving back again during the night.
 
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jastayme3    RE:gf0012-aust    6/14/2006 10:23:40 PM
The Russian overthrowers of capitalism, have long had a tendancy to be ironically stingy with their allies. One might even say they were miserly exploiters. I am not supprised that the Russians gave them bad intell. On the other hand perhaps the Russians just looked at the situation and decided that it wasn't necessary. The Israeli attack does look in retrospect like a, "well duh".
 
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