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Subject: Unintended Consequences of Anti-Semitism
SYSOP    1/19/2015 5:58:26 AM
 
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Nate Dog    Euro Brain Drain 2.0   1/19/2015 7:41:08 AM
'nuff said.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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donstrock       1/19/2015 6:00:43 PM

The Muslim world is pretty much devoid of any creative thinkers or entrepreneurs. Muslims are quick to take credit for the achievements of others, but historically has produced nothing of note. Yeah, yeah, high school history books are quick to credit anyone with an Arabic sounding name with being a Muslim. But they were not. There were many Christian Arabs as we still see, that with over 700 years of trying they cannot liquidate them all. If not for the oil the land possesses, the Arab world would be deeper in ignorance and squalor than that which it currently wallows.
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avatar3    Found This   1/19/2015 7:32:13 PM
Where will the French Jews go? Many will go to Israel which like France is a Socialist state. But Israel is an Orthodox country Also jobs there aren?t great, Some will go to England but won?t long stay. The Common Laws of England to Sharia are giving way Now Canada has a goodly number of French, they speak it all the time. They drive big American cars and drink American wine. Canadians who vacation in America might have to eat bagels Upon which Americans dine. But they escape harsh winter and drive to Florida crossing the Border line. A few will go to Brazil, a fine country. But not Argentina the land of the NAZI! Many are off to the USA and madam Liberty. She?s French you know and has settled there on waterfront property!. They?ll castigate American culture, youth and guns. Laugh at the food and hopefully improve it some. Yes, they will fly back and forth to Paree till the old folks are gone. No one left to see. But their children will embrace America and dwell in the citadels of the warfare state. They will remember not la belle France and that which made her great. Note: Will the last Jew leaving Europe please turn out the light on the WESTERN CIVILIZATION sign?
 
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Johnny    Antisemitism   1/19/2015 11:26:00 PM
"Because a lot of native Europeans are still anti-Semitic"
Hmm, can the author back up this claim?  What constitutes "a lot"?
 
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Nate Dog    Read the polls son   1/19/2015 11:36:18 PM
"a lot" in Greece for example is 60% according to latest polls.
Lowest was in the high teens, don't remember which euro that was. Anti-semitism in Europe, at least the resurgence of it, is linked to Muslim imports, but not exclusive to.
Certainly 60% of Greeks aren't muslims.
There was an article posted on this site with the relevant numbers for the major Euro players, around oct/nov last year. 
 
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Sty0pa       1/23/2015 9:44:25 AM
I think your point is generally right today, but a touch too simplistic.
Some might say that this is splitting hairs, but the early centuries of the Islamic Arab world were magnificent times of rich intellectual and aesthetic innovation, I suspect largely because it was still mostly Arab, and the civilized Arab peoples were the inheritors of the advanced cultures of the Byzantines, Alexandrine Greeks, Romans, and Egyptians.
 
Five centuries on, they began their long slide to today, where I would agree that the correct term is now Arabic Muslim, and they are absolutely in a dark age of ignorance, reaction, and violence.
 
It's dangerous to draw too much from a sample size of two, but let's point out that Christianity five centuries on also was a pretty crappy, violent, stupid, reactionary world....much like Arab Islam today.
Sadly, if this example is meaningful, it would imply that we're at least 200 years from expecting them to even start to climb out of their hole, and perhaps 1000 years from Islam 'discovering' humanism.
 
We can only hope that history IS in fact spinning faster, because the above would imply that lots of people will die before this is resolved. 
 
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Nate Dog    Sty   1/24/2015 8:43:06 AM
I have been saying the same thing for a while now.
Islam wasn't always barbaric, and yes, before the Christian world underwent the renaissance, Christian nations behaved much like modern day arab nations do.
And yes, its likely to take the arab nations some time to catch up with the times, even with modern telecommunications rushing them along. Which brings us to the crux of the problem. Timing.
500 years ago it was extremely hard to kill more than a few people at a time. Weapons were barely more than a mechanical extension of human strength. 
Things are very different now. One man, with a rifle and a few spare magazines, holds the lives of up to a few dozen people in his hands. A few men operating a howitzer, potentially have a few hundred lives in the palm of their hands. And it only goes up from there. Do we have enough time for the arab world to find its renaissance?  
 
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