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Subject: Russian T90 vs. US M1A2 Abrams
achtpanz    6/14/2004 3:59:14 AM
Russian T90 vs American M1A2 Abrams - Which is better? If these tanks fought in battle, which would suffer more casualties, which one is superior? What are their advantages? Any information would be helpful.
 
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ColdStart    to Kevbo   3/4/2011 10:43:26 AM
look at that sick person.... telling me that my ancestry were murderers and rapists, do you know history of europe? Do you know how many murderers and rapists were there? Look into the mid centuries, europeans even before that used to do everything what you have already described in your message....
 
i really really dont get how someone especially sick and stupid person like you can describe and judge on some nation... thats horrible... it not something that hurts me, because i know what the things are. and the fact that some pussy tells some bullsh!t does not change the way i look at the things...
 
you maybe a mentally ill person... or you maybe have some serious life problems or disability...healthy people dont talk the way you do :) you have so much hate in yourself... lol by the way.... its already been prooved that when you have more hate and negative attitudes you shorten your life... lol so... be good! or.... i dont think it might be too late, you and some other people here are already infected with this very dangerous mental disease... which usually applies to morally weak and incapable people. who never had major success in life....suffered...and dont know where to puttheir hate in... internet is nice place! why not! lol
 
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ColdStart    to Kevbo   3/4/2011 10:49:28 AM
lol... he made judging us his lifes work... HAHA!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!! any better things to do in life? lol people become professionals, engineers, scientists...etc... but this idiot decided that all his life he will be trolling... omg... please die.
 
ok so... more failures to come and talk about how bad we are and how cant we built hardware? :) lol get a life, people.
 
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SantaClaws       3/4/2011 12:15:12 PM

And to you moron, Russians were first to be space pioneers, and the first helicopter in the world made for USAF was done by Russian guy. so wtf you here talking how advanced you always were? fool! do you know how many Russians work even now in your military industry? especially within missile design area... damn...one idiot is on top of another here.

Funny. Sikorsky didn't make the first helicopter. Two, he was educated in France. Three, Sikorsky was a US citizen. Apparently, Russia was a such a great country he immigrated from there and decided never to go back because Russia provided such a wealth of opportunities for him (sarcasm). Basically the only thing you can claim was that he was born there.
 
I'm going to say the same thing about your comment that Russians work in our military industry. If they have access to that information, then they are Russian in last name only. Idiot.
 
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heraldabc    Hit you where it hurts.   3/4/2011 12:15:14 PM

look at that sick person.... telling me that my ancestry were murderers and rapists, do you know history of europe? Do you know how many murderers and rapists were there? Look into the mid centuries, europeans even before that used to do everything what you have already described in your message....

 

i really really dont get how someone especially sick and stupid person like you can describe and judge on some nation... thats horrible... it not something that hurts me, because i know what the things are. and the fact that some pussy tells some bullsh!t does not change the way i look at the things...


 

you maybe a mentally ill person... or you maybe have some serious life problems or disability...healthy people dont talk the way you do :) you have so much hate in yourself... lol by the way.... its already been prooved that when you have more hate and negative attitudes you shorten your life... lol so... be good! or.... i dont think it might be too late, you and some other people here are already infected with this very dangerous mental disease... which usually applies to morally weak and incapable people. who never had major success in life....suffered...and dont know where to puttheir hate in... internet is nice place! why not! lol

Yes I do, as I just demonstrated that to you, you poor deluded ignorant fool. In fact it appears I know YOUR history better than you do.
 
Was your grandfather also one of the war criminals in Hungary in 56? I'm curious.
 
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JTR~~    time for a math lesson   3/4/2011 12:16:51 PM

I said 10 per minute. Cant divide 60 by 10?

 

Plus i wasnt talking to you, idiot.




60 divided by 10 = 6 rounds a minute, not 10
 
the man loaded western tanks can achieve and sustain a higher rate of fire. hell as a matter of fact the Challenger 2 using 3 piece ammunition could get off 8 rounds a minute
 
to quote from wikipedia  (yea i know, but this quote illustrates my point perfectly) "rate of fire of Challenger 2 in fact, a loader can often sustain a higher rate of fire than tanks firing single part ammunition, with or without auto-loaders"
 
 
 
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SantaClaws       3/4/2011 12:17:22 PM

And to you moron, Russians were first to be space pioneers, and the first helicopter in the world made for USAF was done by Russian guy. so wtf you here talking how advanced you always were? fool! do you know how many Russians work even now in your military industry? especially within missile design area... damn...one idiot is on top of another here.

Funny. Sikorsky didn't make the first helicopter. Two, he was educated in France. Three, Sikorsky was a US citizen. Apparently, Russia was a such a great country he immigrated from there and decided never to go back because Russia provided such a wealth of opportunities for him (sarcasm). Basically the only thing you can claim was that he was born there.
 
I'm going to say the same thing about your comment that Russians work in our military industry. If they have access to that information, then they are Russian in last name only. Idiot.
 
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heraldabc    Follow up.   3/4/2011 12:22:49 PM
Supercomputers? Coldmule is not only a tank expert but a computer expert? PLDs kumquat.
 
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SantaClaws       3/4/2011 12:25:20 PM

 
and to SantaClaws: i personally know people who work in engineering industry for military in US. you wanted to convince me that only US people work there? ...no... well and there are some other nations contributing as well...


 

also dont forget that it was Von Braun who showed you how to build missile. And about sikorsky, he was US citizen because your gov gave citizenship to him, but he was Soviet guy.... the one whoom you guys consider not smart and non capable... and yes the first helicopter was his helicopter, you stupid moron, you are not even educated and dont know the facts! the first idea of helicopter was proposed very long time ago by leonardo Davinci, but that was just an idea and drawings. But Sikorsky, was the first guy in world who actually built flying heli. 

 

And also, Sikorsky studied in Russian Naval academy and Kiev Polytechnic institute as well, and between that in Paris, but how many people studied in Paris? Every one who graduated could build something unique? what an idiotic statement you gave.... lol... im sure if you'd study in best academy in the world you wont be anything much after graduation (if u graduate at all).


 

But of course, since you people here uneducated idiots you wont know that. You will continue admitting that Russians are non capable and evil and not smart. But the fact stays the fact! You cant omit what exists!


1. And I bet they are US citizens, not Russian citizens if they work in the defense industry. in fact I guarantee it because you need a security clearance, which you can't get with a Russian citizenship. So please don't spout off bullshit people already know the truth to because you just keep making yoruself look like a bigger jackass.
 
2. The Focke-Wulf Fw 61 was the first helicopter dumbass. Sikorsky didn't build it. And yes, so what is Sikorsky was born in Russia? He was EDUCATED in France and WORKED for the US as a CITIZEN. All the attributes that made him successful were not provided by Russia. The only thing you can attribute to Russia was the poor quality education and economic system which made him study abroad and find employment elsewhere.

3. And no point did anyone say Russians are unintelligent. You are, but you don't speak for you countrymen.
 
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ColdStart    ok   3/4/2011 1:05:24 PM
herald, yes idiot, i definitely know about computers and digital electronics much more than you. moron.
 
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ColdStart    ok   3/4/2011 1:07:19 PM
Santa, i know about clearance. of cours they were citizens of US but they were Russians originally..i wonder how difficult it is to understand.
 
And focke Wulf is not helicopter...it was aircrafts...thats just...for your information :)
 
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