I used the correct terminology. Bore x length is the standard artillery description of a gun's caliber-even in the US Army.

 

You must have had poor teachers, but that has been apparent for awhile.

 

H. 

Final note. His whole point was that the 120mm has a higher muzzle velocity and better armor penetration than the Russian 125mm. Does calling it a 44 or 55 make any of that untrue? He got out 20 years ago so I'll cut him a break. I guess what I'm really saying is I don't give a sh*t about the numbers.

 

When did you get out Herald? Oh you didn't even serve. Guess what? I'll always have far more respect for someone who is willing to put their life on the line and put their money where their mouth is over someone who wants to be nerdy and google/wiki everything so that their reply has all the T's crossed for the perfect post.

 

Like I said, I'm not a tanker and by no means am I an expert. I have spoken about my personal experiences riding in Strykers and working with them. That being said I don't expect anyone to have a complete and perfect knowledge of any system they work on because that's just unrealistic.

 

So criticize all you want, because I'll be the first to admit I don't know everything about the Army. No one does. But really you're just a douche bag. At least the 18 year old private has the conviction to sign up and do something they believe in. You are here sofa quarterbacking people when you've never had the moral courage to actually do the very thing you criticize the people who volunteer on your behalf. So maybe I have had poor teachers in the military. Maybe not. But you've had poor teachers about life. Because I believe in something enough that I am willing to fight and die for it. All you can do is criticize how well I do it.

How about when a so-called experienced tank commander makes the gross newbie mistake of calling the T-90 a variant of the T-80, which is itself a variant of the T-72?  I don't know about you but that throws up a big red flag for credibility as far as I am concerned.

OK, then show me a single source. What you're talking about is cartridge when you incorporate length. I really want to see your source because I guarantee NO ONE uses length in describing caliber. Burden of proof is on you.

A random website:

The length of the barrel (especially for larger guns) is often quoted in calibers. The effective length of the barrel (from breech to muzzle) is divided by the barrel diameter to give a value. As an example, the main guns of the Iowa class battleships can be referred to as 16"/50 caliber. They are 16 inches in diameter and the barrel is 800 inches long (800" / 16" = 50 caliber). 

The 6 common calibers of U.S. submarine guns were: 20mm/70cal, 40mm/70cal, 3"/50cal, 4"/50cal, and the 5"/25cal, which is seen in the example below.

Fair enough.  I made an incorrect assumption based on the context of your post.  However, when this is being taught by instructors to new pilots, I believe that it is only inviting mistakes by the pilots and creating opportunities for the enemy.  If there is ever a time where we face an opponent who is more well equipped than the current insurgents, tactics such as these will lead to casualties that could otherwise have been avoided.  You assume that we can just use the exact same tactics as we currently do fighting an opponent who is far better equipped and trained than the ones we currently face.  I simply believe that is incorrect.  The end results of such a conflict will likely be the same but the tactics will have to change and therefore the training as well.  We cannot train to fight last year's war.

Pilots tend to be fairly smart people. We know the threat environment, so we know what we're dealing with. It goes without saying that tactics change according to METTC. Are we going to operate like how we do now (low threat environment) like ones with high ADA? No, of course not. Are we taught how to deal with environments with high ADA? Yes. So it's kinda funny how you mention we need to change tactics because that's exactly what he did for where he was flying at, and it worked. And the missile argument is irrelevant because they don't need to see lights to paint you with IR or radar anyways.