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Subject: Russian T90 vs. US M1A2 Abrams
achtpanz    6/14/2004 3:59:14 AM
Russian T90 vs American M1A2 Abrams - Which is better? If these tanks fought in battle, which would suffer more casualties, which one is superior? What are their advantages? Any information would be helpful.
 
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GeorgeSPatton    Libyan Tank   3/23/2011 9:36:19 PM
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Here are some more pics.  Looks vaguely similar to an early Israeli Magach tank.  Intersting find, it's definitely no T-72 or T-55 that I've ever seen.  That squared-off turret is interesting.
 
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heraldabc       3/23/2011 10:05:24 PM
You are what is called irrelevant to the technical discussion, coldmush as you are just NOISE.
 
Zero data or information input, in other words, a useless Russian fanboi.
 
You did not even comprehend what I said about GLONASS at all. Its so simple and so fundamental  and it shows just how clueless you really are.
 
Claim to change a clutch? Try to claim something simple like change from hayfoot to strawfoot (look it up, clown, Its Americanese for exactly what you are). I wouldn't trust you to change a right thread lightbulb.. If you can't even understand ordinate time (intersecting light cones)  and visualize  it as vector angle solutions in navigation across the interval to generate a point then you know nothing about GPS at all. That means to me that you cannot even land navigate or solve such a simple mechanical timer concept problem as know a a vector from a scalar.   
 
Herald, stfu, you cant probably solve basic math equations, and here you talk high ass about rockets. just shut up.
 See above, cretin. Plainly you are full of manure.

GerorgeSPatton, oh really.. you means it becomes better after NATO bombs someone? Very interesting :) lets launch SS-18 to your town and see how better its gona be for you and your family :) 


And... what about CIA sponsoring Osama long time ago? There are no good guys or bad guys, and you are not the judge.


And of course you are still a liar.
 
H.
 
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ColdStart    ok   3/23/2011 10:14:46 PM
lol someone tried to copy/paste random data here to seem fancy. nice!
 
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SantaClaws       3/23/2011 11:05:10 PM
For someone who spent 10 years in the Army and you can't answer those simple questions? Speaks a lot about your credibility.



BTW, I like how I completely trashed your comments about FBCB2 being removed and the only reply you have is, "BUT THE IDF USE THE 113 SO IT MUST BE GOOD!!!" And again, I'm going to ask you if you work on military comms why do I know your job better than you do?



 



And the only gripe you can bring about the Stryker is that one rolled over and some people died (which can happen ins ANY vehicle) but have no actual valid complaints. Instead you babble on like an idiot about how one rolled over and supposedly it was padlocked, which has nothing to do with the actual vehicle's performance.



 



How about you actually address my points instead of trying to strawman an irrelevant rollover accident. Oh right you can't because you don't have a clue what you are talking about. Still waiting for you to tell me what the Styker MOS is.







Santa, stay away from wiki and do a little research. Got to warn you but it will hurt your feelings when you se you are wrong on just about everything you believe to be true.




 
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SantaClaws       3/23/2011 11:11:45 PM
BTW Buzz, do you know "LT" Sparks? You should get with him. You two can have your little circle jerk of delusion together. Although I am compelled to believe you are him.
 
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GeorgeSPatton    Starting to get on my nerves   3/24/2011 12:30:11 AM
GerorgeSPatton, oh really.. you means it becomes better after NATO bombs someone? Very interesting :) lets launch SS-18 to your town and see how better its gona be for you and your family :) 

OK dude, look, I have tried having a reasonable, even-tempered conversation with you, but really you just keep shooting yourself in the foot.  You need to learn to calm yourself before you go posting a whole bunch of nonsense that you cannot back up.  It makes you sound ignorant, and you reflect poorly upon your nation and its people.  When you threaten my family directly, that crosses a line that you would do well to stay away from

On that note, look at Iraq today.  Are they better or worse off than they were ten years ago?  I'll give you a tiny hint: if they're better off today, it's not from NATO bombing civilians, it's from us killing the bad guys.  There is a big, BIG difference, and you would do well to learn it...soon.
 
And... what about CIA sponsoring Osama long time ago? There are no good guys or bad guys, and you are not the judge.
 
I never said I was a judge of anything.  Everything I have posted here I have either learned by listening a lot and keeping my mouth shut about things I do not know, or have observed by reading the twenty-something pages of your posts.
 
As far as the CIA sponsering Obama, first you have no proof, and second I find it very difficult to belive that any agency concerned with the well-being of the US would willingly sponsor that man.
 
Do svidanya
 
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ColdStart    ok   3/24/2011 1:31:59 AM
see... you dont want imagine something destructable homing on your home town, but you freely talk about that for other countries, using as an argument that US "shoots off bad guys" it is a typical very silly explanation... really... its not me who is ignorant its you who roughly draw a radical line of "truth" and want everyone to believe that. Im not gona believe that. And many people do not either.
 
About CIA and Osama... heh.. DUH... now thats really childish things to say, which proof do you want? Your operatives were teaching those bearded radicals how to set up the bombs, prepare ambushes, make explosions... thats obvious, it was long time ago. So everything is a dirty game. And please... do not say something like "CIA serves the US does best, rescues children from fire, helps old ppl cross the road etc, thts why they never would do that" ... really... what you say sounds like that, and its absolutely not serious....
 
i dont want to hurt you or say something bad, you havent done that either... but... you really sound funny... how many people in the world you think believe in such kind of stuff? only people in US and some NATO countries... oh... even in US there are so many people who do not take it as truth... iv seen some western people having same opinion. 
 
do not look at world through the pink glasses :)
 
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ColdStart    ok   3/24/2011 1:36:15 AM
Well done with Russian language :)
 
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GeorgeSPatton    Cold   3/24/2011 1:54:53 AM

see... you dont want imagine something destructable homing on your home town, but you freely talk about that for other countries, using as an argument that US "shoots off bad guys" it is a typical very silly explanation... really... its not me who is ignorant its you who roughly draw a radical line of "truth" and want everyone to believe that. Im not gona believe that. And many people do not either.

 And that is fine, you are welcome to your opinion.  But there is a big difference between taking out one building in a city housing terrorists with an LGB and leveling the entire thing with a nuke.  NATO isn't throwing around Minutemen or TacToms in Iraq!  If there were terrorists hiding in my city I would welcome NATO airstrikes to take them out.  You are using a double standard to try and make a point out of context.  Once again, Straw Man arguement.

About CIA and Osama... heh.. DUH... now thats really childish things to say, which proof do you want? Your operatives were teaching those bearded radicals how to set up the bombs, prepare ambushes, make explosions... thats obvious, it was long time ago. So everything is a dirty game. And please... do not say something like "CIA serves the US does best, rescues children from fire, helps old ppl cross the road etc, thts why they never would do that" ... really... what you say sounds like that, and its absolutely not serious....

Honestly, that was my bad.  I thought you said Obama.  As for the Mujahideen being sponsored by the CIA, then yes, it is true.  The US Government did a lot of reprehensible things during the Cold War.  Many of these have come back to trouble the world today.  There are no excuses for that, and I do not pretend that the CIA has never made mistakes.  But you cannot seriously say to me that places like Iraq and Afghanistan are worse off today than they were before the US became involved.                                                        What is tiring, however, is people using the CIA as the boogeyman for all kinds of terrible deeds that simply did not happen, such as running drugs from Micaragua or assassinating civilians.  These things come from watchnig too many movies from a Hollywood that is, quite simply, extremely liberal at best.

i dont want to hurt you or say something bad, you havent done that either... but... you really sound funny... how many people in the world you think believe in such kind of stuff? only people in US and some NATO countries... oh... even in US there are so many people who do not take it as truth... iv seen some western people having same opinion. 

 You did not hurt me, you simply made a very poor choice of words.  What I said was simply a warning to choose them more carefully next time, because the next person you mouth off too may not be a thousand miles away, or as patient as me.  Simply food for thought.  I do not simply believe the first things I see or read, I look and search for the truth so that I have a fairly good idea of what I am talking about before I enter a conversation.

do not look at world through the pink glasses :)
 
I don't know what color glasses are where you come from, mine are usually clear.
 
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SantaClaws       3/24/2011 1:58:54 AM
Both the CIA and Osama deny helping each other. Yes, the CIA did help the mujahedeen, but they are not the Taliban (mainly foreigners of Afghan). Osama was already well funded because he was a Saudi prince and didn't need US money. People who claim that Osama was trained by the CIA are just parroting rumors on the internet without any shred of evidence.
 
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