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Subject: Russian T90 vs. US M1A2 Abrams
achtpanz    6/14/2004 3:59:14 AM
Russian T90 vs American M1A2 Abrams - Which is better? If these tanks fought in battle, which would suffer more casualties, which one is superior? What are their advantages? Any information would be helpful.
 
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Slim Pickinz       4/3/2011 7:23:27 PM













You've got to be the bigest dumbass posting here. Even the russians secur their vehicles from outside when they are parked. But a dumbass in stryker padlocled the door after the troops got in because they were scared of having a grenade thrown in. As far as the picture goes most countries dont put a worthless birdcage on their LAV IIIs.






















Cool story bro. That's really funny since the door actually locks from the inside (just like every other armored vehicle including uparmored Humvees) so there is no need to pad lock it from the outside. Will your brain explode when you see this?



 



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h**p://media.defenseindustrydaily.com/images/LAND_M113A3_Modified_in_Iraq_lg.jpg



 


BTW Foorgot to say thank you for the photos. Dont know why anyone would put slant armor on a 113 when reactive armor is better.  Also if you really ever had been in the army you would be able to see that that damage appears to have been inflicted by a roadside bomb blast and not an RPG.




You can't use reactive armor in close quarters where it could injure fellow soldiers or civilians close to the M-113 if the reactive armor went off. Are you sure you're in the military?
 
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Buzz       4/3/2011 7:23:46 PM

LOL, where do you get this info from? One, helicopters rarely engage each other. I don't believe there is a single incident where one helicopter actually shot down another. And I am telling you it is a fact stingers are not authorized on the wingtips of 64s because they mess with the aerodynamics.

 

So now you're saying stingers are for air to air when your last post you said apaches were using them to hit pickup trucks. Want to make up your mind?


























Right before the first gulf war we integrated stinger missiles onto Apache Helicopters. Those guys go into contests to see how far they could kill an Iraqi pickup with a $50,000 missile. So yeah I believe some of them did  it






























Let me get this straight. You put stingers on Apaches, which aren't even authorized because they mess up the aerodynamics, in the First Gulf war. Then, the Apache pilots used the stinger, an air to air missile, to hit Iraq pickup trucks. Cool story bro.



And true. The army aviators were scared shitless of the HIND helicopters and no they didnt do anything to the aerodynamics of the airframe.












Dumbass, just because it isnt done now doesnt mean it has never been done. Go wikki it up. Unlike you some of us have actually done things in the military.
 
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heraldabc       4/3/2011 7:26:00 PM
I don't know about Apaches, Santa, but I do know that OH-58s practiced with Stingers against RPV training drones and as part of their scout mission had a capability to engage enemy helos a2a.   
 
An Apache Longbow could easily do the same, just cue the Stinger onto the target.
 
As for P/U trucks, not impossible since it has a hot hood to hit, easy to see look-down  contrasted against a cold backdrop (ground at night). A P/U truck-especially a Toyota is not much tougher than a helo and a Stinger would shred it easy. (500,000+ joules work in rocket when it hits you + HE warhead= ~ about 1 MJ, are you kidding me here?)   
 
H.
 
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Buzz       4/3/2011 7:30:33 PM

LOL, where do you get this info from? One, helicopters rarely engage each other. I don't believe there is a single incident where one helicopter actually shot down another. And I am telling you it is a fact stingers are not authorized on the wingtips of 64s because they mess with the aerodynamics.

 

So now you're saying stingers are for air to air when your last post you said apaches were using them to hit pickup trucks. Want to make up your mind?


























Right before the first gulf war we integrated stinger missiles onto Apache Helicopters. Those guys go into contests to see how far they could kill an Iraqi pickup with a $50,000 missile. So yeah I believe some of them did  it






























Let me get this straight. You put stingers on Apaches, which aren't even authorized because they mess up the aerodynamics, in the First Gulf war. Then, the Apache pilots used the stinger, an air to air missile, to hit Iraq pickup trucks. Cool story bro.



And true. The army aviators were scared shitless of the HIND helicopters and no they didnt do anything to the aerodynamics of the airframe.











One of these days you might actually learn to read. A stinger will lock onto any heat source it is aimed at that is signifigantly hotter than the ambient temperature. BTW it uses more than IR. If thats all it used then we would have just stayed with the Redeye. Your not a pilot your just some dumbass soldier wanna be wikkiing up alllo of your answers. You claim to be an expert on styker and then say youre a helo pilot. Game boy is more like it. Have you ever been laid? Not talking about that blow up doll or your hand as you watch porno. Get some balls and enlist.
 
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SantaClaws       4/3/2011 7:30:41 PM
OK, here it is from wiki.
 
h**p://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIM-92_Stinger
 
The block I was developed in 1996, 5 years after the first Gulf War. Maybe you should have wiki'ed it first retard. So you put these stingers on Apaches in the first Gulf War 5 years before the missile was even made, huh?
 
Like I said, "Mr. 10 year", if I show proof of me being in the Army will you delete your account and never come back to this website?



LOL, where do you get this info from? One, helicopters rarely engage each other. I don't believe there is a single incident where one helicopter actually shot down another. And I am telling you it is a fact stingers are not authorized on the wingtips of 64s because they mess with the aerodynamics.



 



So now you're saying stingers are for air to air when your last post you said apaches were using them to hit pickup trucks. Want to make up your mind?






















































Right before the first gulf war we integrated stinger missiles onto Apache Helicopters. Those guys go into contests to see how far they could kill an Iraqi pickup with a $50,000 missile. So yeah I believe some of them did  it






























































Let me get this straight. You put stingers on Apaches, which aren't even authorized because they mess up the aerodynamics, in the First Gulf war. Then, the Apache pilots used the stinger, an air to air missile, to hit Iraq pickup trucks. Cool story bro.







And true. The army aviators were scared shitless of the HIND helicopters and no they didnt do anything to the aerodynamics of the airframe.



























Dumbass, just because it isnt done now doesnt mean it has never been done. Go wikki it up. Unlike you some of us have actually done things in the military.

 
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Buzz       4/3/2011 7:32:26 PM

If I post proof of myself, will your delete your account and never come back to this website?








h**p://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_MOS_would_you_join_to_drive_the_Stryker_combat_vehicle







 







Both of you need to read that.







 







"Although a few different MOS's use the Stryker vehicle, the primary MOS to have the most chance of driving it would be 11B infantryman.











Read more: <>" target="_blank">link



 







There are no tankers in Stryker Brigades. They are INFANTRY UNITS. You guys are about as clueless as Buzz. Seriously just shut up. When real Army people tell you that you are an idiot and just need to shut up, they are doing you a favor. I am doing you a favor and have been for the past 10 pages.






































Go find a real soldier to post loser






Must really hurt your feelings to know everyone laughs at you. No real friends no girlfriend. Just a computer and some of your dads old sticky playboys for company.
 
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Buzz       4/3/2011 7:35:15 PM

My whole point is that slat armor is common on all light armor and effective. Even your precious 113 uses it.

























You've got to be the bigest dumbass posting here. Even the russians secur their vehicles from outside when they are parked. But a dumbass in stryker padlocled the door after the troops got in because they were scared of having a grenade thrown in. As far as the picture goes most countries dont put a worthless birdcage on their LAV IIIs.














































Cool story bro. That's really funny since the door actually locks from the inside (just like every other armored vehicle including uparmored Humvees) so there is no need to pad lock it from the outside. Will your brain explode when you see this?







 







h**p://kwilson228th.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/m113.jpg














h**p://media.defenseindustrydaily.com/images/LAND_M113A3_Modified_in_Iraq_lg.jpg







 






BTW Foorgot to say thank you for the photos. Dont know why anyone would put slant armor on a 113 when reactive armor is better.  Also if you really ever had been in the army you would be able to see that that damage appears to have been inflicted by a roadside bomb blast and not an RPG.











Dumbass if you ever had any real history behind you then you would know that the US military has always resisted employing reactive armor.  In Vietnam soldier hung sandbags on the sides in hopes of mitigating RGP stikes.
 
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SantaClaws       4/3/2011 7:37:44 PM

Must really hurt your feelings to know everyone laughs at you. No real friends no girlfriend. Just a computer and some of your dads old sticky playboys for company.

Answer me question shit bag. You equipped these missiles when they weren't even made? You travel back in time from 1996? Were you even in Kuwait? And again, if I post proof of myself will you delete your account and never come back to this forum?
 
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Buzz       4/3/2011 7:39:12 PM


You can't use reactive armor in close quarters where it could injure fellow soldiers or civilians close to the M-113 if the reactive armor went off. Are you sure you're in the military?


Think about what you just said. If an RPG went off near you you are dead anyway making your statemment invalid. Fact is the eqyuipment is more valuable than the soldier. The soldier is easier to replace.
 
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Buzz       4/3/2011 7:41:36 PM

OK, here it is from wiki.

 

h**p://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIM-92_Stinger


 

The block I was developed in 1996, 5 years after the first Gulf War. Maybe you should have wiki'ed it first retard. So you put these stingers on Apaches in the first Gulf War 5 years before the missile was even made, huh?


 

Like I said, "Mr. 10 year", if I show proof of me being in the Army will you delete your account and never come back to this website?









LOL, where do you get this info from? One, helicopters rarely engage each other. I don't believe there is a single incident where one helicopter actually shot down another. And I am telling you it is a fact stingers are not authorized on the wingtips of 64s because they mess with the aerodynamics.







 







So now you're saying stingers are for air to air when your last post you said apaches were using them to hit pickup trucks. Want to make up your mind?














































































































Right before the first gulf war we integrated stinger missiles onto Apache Helicopters. Those guys go into contests to see how far they could kill an Iraqi pickup with a $50,000 missile. So yeah I believe some of them did  it






























































































































Let me get this straight. You put stingers on Apaches, w
 
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