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Subject: Russia Resumes Shrinking
SYSOP    5/26/2015 6:09:25 AM
 
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keffler25       5/26/2015 9:05:17 AM
This analysis is so dodgy that I had to check on the situation here..
 
As an interesting sidelight....
 
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Russian Demographics

As you can see from the graphic, almost half of all Russians live in just two areas: the Central and Volga federal districts . The further east you go --to Siberia and beyond -- the less dense the population is. 
 
 
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Largest Russian Citiies

Moscow  is the largest city in Russia with a population of 11.5 million people, which also makes it the sixth largest city in the world. Saint Petersburg is the second largest Russian city, with 4.8 million people, making it the 40th largest city in the world.

Interestingly, Russia is one of the most sparsely populated countries in the world, in part due to its harsh climate. The country has a population density of just 8.4 people per square kilometer (22 per square mile), but the population is most dense in the European are aof the country around Saint Petersburg and Moscow.

Russia is mostly an urban country; according to the census results, 74% of Russians live in urban areas -- either towns or cities. Ten other Russian cities have a population of more than a million people. You can see the full list below.

Rank City Name Population
1 Moscow 11,514,330
2 Saint Petersburg 4,848,742
3 Novosibirsk 1,473,737
4 Yekaterinburg 1,350,136
5 Nizhny Novgorod 1,250,615
6 Samara 1,164,896
7 Omsk 1,153,971
8 Kazan 1,143,546
9 Chelyabinsk 1,130,273
10 Rostov-on-Don 1,089,851
11 Ufa 1,062,300
12 Volgograd 1,021,244
Interestingly, the population of Russia’s cities has increased over the past ten years, reflecting the increasing urbanization of Russia as people move from the countryside to cities in search of better employment. 
 
 This kind of information makes for interesting reading if you happen to be a US strategic planner.
 
 If I were Putin, considering the rising anger in America, I would shut the freak up and not make waves. Caught between the Eagle and the Dragon, he's not in a good place to BLUFF about anything.   
 
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HR    A general comment and then one on knuckle head Keff   5/26/2015 11:48:16 AM
First of all Georgia had a war with Russia and that had consequences... and no Marshall Plan to re-build it. Now the comment on our drunken sailor and resident knuckle-head: Keffler. There is a long multi-decade if not multi-century demographic trend for rural area to loose population to urban areas and this has been a pronounce trend here in the USA. As well as emigration from depressed (the MacKefflers or the O'Kefflers probably emigrated a long time ago to the USA and changed their name to Keffler); So there nothing strange here in that Strategy Page article or our own Keffler's citation that has not happened before say with Scotland or Ireland. The real problem with rural area is capital... agriculture is capital intensive and you typically need government action in the form of subsidies as well as low interest loans, crop insurance, etc... which I am sure the Russians do not do.
 
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bob sykes       5/26/2015 4:35:26 PM
"Rising anger in America" Who are they? The American people don't care about Russia or anything it does. They would be perfectly happy to watch Russia actually invade Ukraine and the Baltic states. It would merely be entertaining reality TV. Americans in general would probably draw the line somewhere in Belgium, if the Russian army could get anywhere near it.
 
The rising anger is the anger of the lunatics like McCain, the neocons and some bored maligerers in the Pentagon and State Department. They are desperate to start a war with Russia or China, despite the fact that we have screwed up the entire MENA. 
 
If you want to get angry, get angry about the Dept. Homeland Security or TSA or the murderous drone strikes and the endless other evils of our federal government. 
 
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keffler25       5/26/2015 4:54:02 PM
Is it a wonder that I regard you with contempt, troll?  
 
If you could read, troll, you would have noticed that in the last two decades, America's targeting problem to knock out Russia has become very simplified. They are highly vulnerable to a degree that they had not been prior. They can't defend themselves ANYMORE.
 
Let me write that again. THEY CAN'T DEFEND THEMSELVES.
 
So, troll, you better try your act out on some fanbois. It ain't flying here.     
 
 
 
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First of all Georgia had a war with Russia and that had consequences... and no Marshall Plan to re-build it. Now the comment on our drunken sailor and resident knuckle-head: Keffler. There is a long multi-decade if not multi-century demographic trend for rural area to loose population to urban areas and this has been a pronounce trend here in the USA. As well as emigration from depressed (the MacKefflers or the O'Kefflers probably emigrated a long time ago to the USA and changed their name to Keffler); So there nothing strange here in that Strategy Page article or our own Keffler's citation that has not happened before say with Scotland or Ireland. The real problem with rural area is capital... agriculture is capital intensive and you typically need government action in the form of subsidies as well as low interest loans, crop insurance, etc... which I am sure the Russians do not do.

 
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HR    Bob   5/26/2015 8:34:51 PM
As inept as the Ukrainians are the Russians must be just as bad because they are struggling with them... but the point here is that they are up-setting the international order. they are better off skipping the arms-race and trying to "buy" what ever they feel they need in the Commercial Market that is there and to which they enjoy access... or used to enjoy access prior to this idiotic invasion. As far as the USA's Congress and its military officers... barring another 9/11 event that will send public paranoia soaring the potential of another invasion of any country is nil and that includes China and Russia. There are other ways of dealing with them.
 
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keffler25       5/26/2015 9:12:16 PM
Lol. An utterly clueless troll. Who said anything about invasion?
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