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Subject: China Hits Another Major Milestone
SYSOP    2/21/2013 5:09:08 AM
 
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Chris       2/21/2013 9:55:51 AM
China does not need that many Y-20s but it does want to get away from depending on Russia for heavy transports. Dealing with Russia can be difficult.
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Well to be fair - so can the Chinese - from the Russian perspective.  The Chinese have been illegally using Russian designs (via reverse engineering) and selling them as their own for decades, much to Russia's chagrin.  And the Russians have been stuck selling to the Chinese anyway because they need the hard currency.
 
Whatever made people so eager in the US to transfer so many dual use technologies (and the hard-won manufacturing techniques) is beyond me, especially given the above (unless of course, you take into account the relatively short-term gains to the balance sheet).  But our federal government is supposed to know better, and clearly demonstrated otherwise, and failed to protect the US manufacturing base, the millions of jobs lost, in addition to the tax revenues all those jobs generated.  Now, instead, we're having to pay for unemployment benefits and food stamps for the same people our deeply irresponsible government put out of work.
 
 
 
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DClanton       2/22/2013 12:11:35 AM
Politicians are just like professional athletes. They are hungry for the next endorsement deal and dont give a shit about you, the voting citizen, because you dont pay them nearly as much. Why would they care that our manufacturing will be shattered in 20 years if their term ends in 4? Im asking the Reagan era cunts who put us in this mess but guess what? They've been retired for a decade and who cares anyway because their kids dont work manufacturing jobs. This system of governance offers NO accountability to those who make the decisions that will affect your lives for decades to come. Which is why they are corrupt as sin, because why not? There is no reason NOT to sell your vote because there are no consequences for doing so. Just look at how the Chinese absolutely KILLED the american solar panel industry. Not one (I think ONE Senator railed against it but got no media coverage) politician stood up and said NO and now the american solar panel industry is dead and we buy them all from the Chineses. One of many examples of our politicians selling out our children's futures for quick political or monetary gain.
 
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DClanton       2/22/2013 1:51:09 AM
I hate it when people do not take time to format their responses properly or at least legibly so I took the time to re-format this as it was originally intended. It might make my somewhat unrelated points a little more understandable to see them broken up a bit.
 
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"Politicians are just like professional athletes. They are hungry for the next endorsement deal and dont give a shit about you, the voting citizen, because you dont pay them nearly as much. Why would they care that our manufacturing will be shattered in 20 years if their term ends in 4? Im asking the Reagan era cunts who put us in this mess but guess what? They've been retired for a decade and who cares anyway because their kids dont work manufacturing jobs.
 
This system of governance offers NO accountability to those who make the decisions that will affect your lives for decades to come. Which is why they are corrupt as sin, because why not? There is no reason NOT to sell your vote because there are no consequences for doing so.
 
Just look at how the Chinese absolutely KILLED the american solar panel industry. Not one (I think ONE Senator railed against it but got no media coverage) politician stood up and said NO and now the american solar panel industry is dead and we buy them all from the Chineses. One of many examples of our politicians selling out our children's futures for quick political or monetary gain."
 
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Chris       2/22/2013 10:02:13 AM
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This system of governance offers NO accountability to those who make the decisions that will affect your lives for decades to come. Which is why they are corrupt as sin, because why not? There is no reason NOT to sell your vote because there are no consequences for doing so.
Just look at how the Chinese absolutely KILLED the american solar panel industry. Not one (I think ONE Senator railed against it but got no media coverage) politician stood up and said NO and now the american solar panel industry is dead and we buy them all from the Chineses. One of many examples of our politicians selling out our children's futures for quick political or monetary gain.

Indeed - the US allowed the chinese to destroy the solar industry that was just getting going here in the USA - and that was a tragically un-American thing to do.  Allowing the Chinese to stomp on our manufacturers via huge governmental subsidies, and then claim it was a poor investment on the part of the US demonstrates what George Washington meant, when he said that: "the true enemies of the  United States are those who put their party politics above the good of the nation...".
 
 
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MajorJohn    Ummm   3/1/2013 12:31:23 AM
Ummm ..if Soylndra wasn't a huge government subsidy, I don't know what is.  Both these nations are trying to go green to also improve their image and the industry isn't as mature as we all would like.
 
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