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Subject: Best Semi auto Pistol today?
Philippine Soldier    10/30/2003 9:29:00 AM
I love pistol shooting. I currently own and use the best plastic gun in the world, the Glock model 35. I have a calibre 40 S&W and magazine capacity is 15. It is very light, tough and reliable. I would like to hear from other peoples opinion. Which semi auto pistol is available in the market right now that is worth looking at. Is is the Para ordnance, Colt or others.
 
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Ereldar    Safety   7/21/2009 9:27:26 PM
Every firearm has the potential for an accidental discharge if jarred/dropped/shaken, except for the Beretta M9 which has several safety features that make it one of the safest handguns in the world, so safe in fact that Air Force Security Forces carry it with a round in the chamber off of safe.  First it has the firing pin block, which falls out of the way of the firing pin and round when the trigger is depressed making the only way to fire the weapon pulling the trigger.  Second is the decocking lever/safety.  If the gun is cocked, one does not need to put their thumb on the hammer like everyone sees in the movies to decock this weapon, they just put the weapon on safe and the hammer moves into the half cocked position, which brings me to the next safety feature.  The third safety feature is the half cock notch.  Most weapons when you start to pull the trigger in a double action configuration, as soon as you start the trigger pull there is no reliable way to stop and return the weapon to a cold weapon.  Letting up on the trigger could possibly set off the round, so in a M9 the half cock notch means that if you start to pul the trigger and realize that it was just an old lady that was sneaking up behind you, you can release the trigger and not worry about cooking off a round.  The final safety feature is of course your head.  And I'm going to get crucified on this forum for saying this, but I think the 9mm is a perfect round for a personal defense weapon.  It's light, better accuracy than a 1911, in general, better rangre, smaller round for higher cap. and with Extreme Shock ammunition, stopping power is not a problem.
 
 
 
 
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stbretnco       7/21/2009 9:47:06 PM
Every firearm has the potential for an accidental discharge if jarred/dropped/shaken, except for the Beretta M9 which has several safety features that make it one of the safest handguns in the world, so safe in fact that Air Force Security Forces carry it with a round in the chamber off of safe.
 
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1) The U.S. Army no longer classifies anything as an accidental discharge. They are negligent discharges, and the terminology fits.
 
2) Carry with one up the pipe off safe? In the military? In everyday carry?
 
Without a citation, I've got to call bullshit on that one. With the exception of combat ops, I've never seen any orders allowing that.
 
The M9 (aka Beretta 92) has the same potential for mechanical failure as any other pistol. 
 
What's the best pistol? It's an entirely individual call. Whatever you're most comfortable with for the task at hand.
 
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BasinBictory       8/21/2009 2:22:19 AM
It's incorrect to say that the Beretta M9/92FS is the "safest" pistol in the world on the basis of its decocker mechanism or its DA/SA mode of operation. Many pistols have identical features, and many more also have the firing pin stop you attribute to being able to prevent a discharge in the event that the gun is dropped or jarred suddenly. My CZ-75b has the firing pin stop, as does my Colt XSE (Series 80 with extra features). My Sig P220 has the usual decocking mechanism Sigs are known for, with no manual safety - but in all of my guns, safety is primarily the responsibility of the person holding the gun and their level of training.
 
FWIW, I personally believe that my Colt XSE is the "safest" gun I own -even if I were to carry it locked an cocked with one in the chamber. No less than four (4) mechanisms must be overcome before the gun can be fired. 1) the maual safety must be in the "fire" or "off safe" position. 2) The grip safety must be depressed, which will do two things: 3) push up on the firing pin stop, permitting free travel of the firing pin and 4) unlocking the backward travel of the trigger, enabling the trigger to be pulled to the rear, firing the weapon.
 
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kirby1       8/21/2009 11:22:56 AM
I have a cheap Rock Island Armory 1911 that I love to death. I wouldn't trade it for anything, not even a Kimber. Apparently I got the best one that came off the assmebly line, your mileage may vary.  In the world of plastic guns, I own a Springfield XDSC-9. I sold my GLOCK19 to get it. I'm loving the XD.
 
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Remington700    Best Pistol   12/29/2009 8:34:46 PM
I also have the Glock 35, 40 cal. Smooth and flawless.
 
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Tacshooter    the best to date is the beretta 96fs its a 1911 mixed with a glock best of both worlds   5/31/2011 7:54:37 PM

exactly, youre holding an off safe weapon that is ready to fire. Depending upon the situation (such as holding a Felon at gun point while taking them into custody, covering a suspect until assistance arrives, or even moving to cover) It may not cross your mind to de or make safe your weapon creating the likelyhood, not just the possibility that unless your trigger finger knows not to go anywhere near the trigger until the moment you are ready to fire you will screw the pooch at the worst possible time. Many lawsuits and unjustified shootings have resulted from that over the years. Its probably more an issue more of civil and criminal liability than handgun design ... but its solved by training.
With the 1911 type handguns, as well as most other SA autos there is no way to operate the slide with the safety engaged. With designs such as the SIGs, some Berrettas, Rugers, Smith & Wessons, there is no safety to engage, only the deer.
If condition three is what you really prefer then a pistol like the Glock or DAO designs would be much safer. Although to me, regardless of what pistol it is it needs to be carried in a mode where it can be rapidly employed shearly by the nature of engagements handguns are meant and utilized most often for. youve got time to make a condition three handgun ready to be put into action ....... in my opinion, youve got time to grab up a shotgun, SMG, or rifle.
 
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scholar       6/14/2011 10:31:14 AM
I always liked the logic of Glocks: you'll never be in a situation where you think the safety is on...but it isn't...or you need it to be off, but it's on.  Both scenarios are dangerous.  Plus, it will always fire when you pull the trigger, and it will never fire when you don't. That makes it the wisest choice.
 
That said, when I asked my own weapons instructor what the best handgun was, his answer was spot on: the best is the one you're trained on, whatever that happens to be. 
 
 
 
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Musashi       11/3/2011 3:43:26 AM
I reload every firearm I use, and I use many dozens of firearms since I'm a collector and a fourth generation competitor and licensed dealer. I live in Florida and I have a CCL (Concealed Carry License/Permit) and I mainly use a Glock 31 in .357 SIG. And I reload it and chose the .357 SIG because of its incredible power and more on topic for the reason you just said, the 'bottleneck' is actually a GOOD thing because it helps the header and extractor claw and everything else 'GRAB' onto the cartridge and the frame and mechanism that pushes the loaded cartridge into the barrel out of the magazine, has an incredibly more SIGNIFICANT chance of being successful and pushing the cartridge into the barrel because of the bottleneck. So the bottleneck actually significantly improves and helps with the reliability. On another note I also carry my Security Six (also a .357 in magnum) sometimes as a concealed carry but I really like to carry my browning model 1903 in 9MM (post WWII made by a Swedish company) I think its sexy lol
 
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