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Subject: Obama's SS?
ambush    11/1/2008 10:36:36 PM
Hitler had the SA and SS Mao had the Red Guard http://www.youtube.com/v/Tt2yGzHfy7s&hl=en&fs=1">http://www.youtube.com/v/Tt2yGzHfy7s&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344">
 
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gf0012-aust       11/1/2008 11:30:15 PM
has anyone in the press asked him to expand on this?
 
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HERALD1357    More like the MVD.    11/1/2008 11:37:32 PM
What's next? Internal passports?


Herald

 
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warpig       11/2/2008 3:17:06 AM
Hold on a minute.  Now I've been calling him the Obamination and a communist, and still do, but I doubt he was talking about establishing some new agency.  Who wants to bet that he was referring to support for some existing group/category of law enforcement agencies.  Even we conservatives campaign to "Support Your Local Police."  Granted, his idea of supporting our local police probably includes an Orwellian redefinition of "local" by using federal money to do it, thus to some extent nationalizing them and rendering them not-local to that same extent.  This clip is yet another of the innumerable examples of his sound-bite lines calling for "changes" that do not reveal the specifics of what that change would entail.  I don't "fear" change per se in the slightest, but I definitely fear calls for change from communists without knowing the accompanying specifics of the change--which are almost guaranteed to be damaging to liberty.
 
 
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ambush       11/2/2008 10:02:02 PM

SS ?  Not exactly.  Its actually called "THW" "Technical Help Service" ... ^^  you can join there if you dont want to serve the Army or go into elderly homes as substitute service of conscription. 

 

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Very helpful during desasters, these guys know how to clear streets, pump water out of houses, repair energy etc. 


 

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Obamas a smart guy, although I doubt he can put this through, Americans dont seem to be interested to serve their country for a year on a "you have to ! - order is order" basis. 


  You semed to have missed the suggestion by some politicians for mandatory volunteerism such as community service as part of high school graduation requirements.
 
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HIPAR       11/5/2008 12:27:05 PM
I have the impression he envisioned this as an armed agency.  Well, we already have the FBI, ATF, Secret Service, Homeland Security etc.operating at the federal level here. 
 
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jastayme3       11/12/2008 11:00:32 PM

 This seems to be a combination of Baldwin's Law and Obama Derangement Syndrome. BDS was bad enough. Do we really need an ODS?
 
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warpig       11/13/2008 6:57:58 PM

Hold on a minute.  Now I've been calling him the Obamination and a communist, and still do, but I doubt he was talking about establishing some new agency.  Who wants to bet that he was referring to support for some existing group/category of law enforcement agencies.  Even we conservatives campaign to "Support Your Local Police."  Granted, his idea of supporting our local police probably includes an Orwellian redefinition of "local" by using federal money to do it, thus to some extent nationalizing them and rendering them not-local to that same extent.  This clip is yet another of the innumerable examples of his sound-bite lines calling for "changes" that do not reveal the specifics of what that change would entail.  I don't "fear" change per se in the slightest, but I definitely fear calls for change from communists without knowing the accompanying specifics of the change--which are almost guaranteed to be damaging to liberty.

 



Still haven't heard any real details to know, but now I'm starting to become a bit concerned....
 
 
 
 

 
 
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jastayme3       11/16/2008 11:33:14 AM
In any case, this sounds more like a CCC then an SS.
 
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theBird       11/16/2008 10:17:17 PM
If it were Rudy Guilliani making the announcement I might be worried, but I'm willing to stake all in the SP futures market that Obama's "SS", is something like the Salvation Army/Boy and Girl Scouts/Red Cross all rolled into one and will be tasked with defeating such "domestic enemies" as floods, wildfires and illiteracy in public schools.  Kinda like when LBJ declared a "war on poverty".

 
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warpig       11/16/2008 10:40:11 PM

If it were Rudy Guilliani making the announcement I might be worried, but I'm willing to stake all in the SP futures market that Obama's "SS", is something like the Salvation Army/Boy and Girl Scouts/Red Cross all rolled into one and will be tasked with defeating such "domestic enemies" as floods, wildfires and illiteracy in public schools.  Kinda like when LBJ declared a "war on poverty".





And when the details are determined and it turns out to be completely voluntary in participation with no ramifications for any who choose not to participate, and involves no federal funding whatsoever, that would likely be a swell program--just as are the Salvation Army, the BSA/GSA, and the Red Cross.  As soon as that is true except that it includes federal funding, then it's risking becoming just another government welfare/works program, but maybe still could be not the worst thing the federal government has ever done.  But as soon as there are any hints of repercussions for non-participation--let alone any compusary participation--it is blatant unAmerican fascism and therefore wrong and may well be outright unconstitutional.
 
 
 
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