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Subject: Economic crisis expected to takeout USA & UK as premier enforcers- impact
Necromancer    12/23/2008 12:19:30 PM
Folks, by November 2009 US & K are expected to be Zimbabwe type economies or at least Soviet UNion type, lot of nuclear missiles nd no real power. What then? Iran in Iraq? India attacks Pakistan(note statements in INdian government- UK & US cannot be relied on for enforcer roles), China and Taiwan reunite? Russia marches into POland? German Franco alliance? The change is here and all this will be true if u here the rumor that AIG is failing again- then u know its the end for the USA-UK pre-eminence.
 
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JFKY    Uhhhhh so...   12/23/2008 12:29:46 PM
It is your contention that when the two financial/banking power house economies, lenders to the world and the world's largest market (The US) go under everyone else, India (home of many outsourced US jobs) and China (Leading exporter to the US) and the rest of the world users of these vital services, will some how be miraculously untouched?
 
Please take remedial class in economics.  If the US economy heads south, EVERYONE'S economy heads south...you did notice, that when AIG and others fell, Angela Merkel and other Germans, at first thought, "There goes the US predominance." that was until they discovered that their own banks were even MORE leveraged and in deeper trouble.
 
So take the fan-boy stuff home, and think a little more deeply about the upcoming economic down turn, the GLOBAL economic downturn....brought on by the US recession...
 
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Necromancer    JFKY   12/23/2008 12:37:42 PM
Let me comment- this is exactly the attitude that will take the US down. The truth is the rest of the world does not need to support a sick debt ridden economy like the US any longer- u would be a fool to further finance the US like China did for years. In fact China and foreign investors have substantially reduced their commitments to finance US like Fannie Mae etc.
I would not like to argue, but perhaps you ought to seach Schiff in youtube and listen to 7 or so of the clips. I guessed this a longtime ago and he confirmed it- Asians will not be content in propping US up and neither will EU banks trust US. Essentially USA will be kicked out as the Obese lazy bailout debt driven player in the World economy- the party is over and its hangover time- accept it, I already job an hour a day and cut down on spending.
 
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JFKY       12/23/2008 12:43:03 PM
Yes sure Necromancer, you're going to kick us out...the 40% of the world's GNP, OK, tell me how that works for you...
 
Oh please it is to laugh.....
 
Get back to me when the PRC suffers it's coming social/political/economic collapse a la Indonesia...and then tell me about Asia....
 
OR could you explain why the US T-Bill pays such a low interest rate today...why yes, JFKY that's because everyone in the world wants dollars and T-bills as a safe haven in the current world economic climate.
 
This isn't to say that the US is perfect or will always be on top, just to point out that you are writing the obituary a little too soon...
 
But if it makes yo feel better about yourself go right ahead.
 
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HERALD1357    JFKY reply.   12/23/2008 12:44:29 PM
Well you nibbled at some Herk the Jerk troll bait.
 
He wants somebody to pay some attention to him. Ignore him. He's harmless and rather pathetic.
 
Herald..
 
 

 
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Necromancer    JFKY   12/23/2008 12:51:14 PM
Let me elaborate-- USA the worlds biggest market??? As of Dec 22nd 2008- r u kidding me- Watch the shoppers freeze this Christmas and then wait for 40% unemployment and then its over for the #1 shopping nation status. Its rather ridiculous that you do not understand the irony of your own statement- "the worlds biggest market" that shopped itself into credit hell and surrenderred to China in Walmart. Jesus, US surrenders at Walmart without a gunshot Sun Tzu must be required reading in high schools.
 
Also true the Chinese, EU and Indian economies will suffer but they are nt going to improving by propping up U but rather by kicking it out. What use is the bigges market if it can't pay its bills or at best pay with Dollars which will be worthless in the long run. Anybody can be the biggest  market with cheap credit and paper valueless currency
 
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JFKY    Well Herk   12/23/2008 1:03:23 PM
...we'll just ahve to agree to disagree...I'm following the Herlad advice and leaving your to your pathetic dream world.  I will leave saying I heard all this before in the 1970's and then in the 1980's...oddly we're still here and they're all gone.
 
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Necromancer    No deam world   12/23/2008 1:09:40 PM

...we'll just ahve to agree to disagree...I'm following the Herlad advice and leaving your to your pathetic dream world.  I will leave saying I heard all this before in the 1970's and then in the 1980's...oddly we're still here and they're all gone.


And here are some professional opinions(not mine)
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The summary is simple, people spent against home equity that disappeared- the biggest market was created on fake wealth and the bill is due. But the thread is assuming US & UK are reduced to post Soviet status and consequent global military scenarion - not an economic discussion, so even if u disagree please contribute the conseuences of this possible economic colapse in military scenario.
 
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Necromancer    Nasty would German banks   12/23/2008 1:11:20 PM
re-invest in US anytime soon?? How possible is a German Francoalliance?
 
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Softwar    He's Baccclkkkkk...   12/23/2008 1:33:58 PM

Well you nibbled at some Herk the Jerk troll bait. 

He wants somebody to pay some attention to him. Ignore him. He's harmless and rather pathetic.

Herald..
 

Isn't this his third nom du jour?  First there was Herc (aka Herc the Jerk).  Then there was Le Zookeeper now we have necomancer.  I mean really - how many times does this guy have to die and come back under a different name and still not get the hint that troll behavior is stupid?
Oh well, apparently he's off his med again and back posting cr@p on the Internet. 
 
Don't bother to write back Herc old pal.  I won't reply... and BTW... your thread stinks.
 
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Necromancer    really softwar   12/23/2008 1:39:41 PM
 u so envious that i get readers? lol what a first class loser. This is probably the strategic event of the century=demise of Soviet Union and Nazi Germany and British empire were 20th century story, USA's end as Supersuperpower is 21st centuries first big news, rise of China and Germany will be next events. Geta life. Stick to cutting and pasting you simply have no mental capacity or class to discuss with decency you loser.
 
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