Well the current American policy is Do as we say not do as we do. Its known as mistrust as far as Iran goes. We think Iran is reckless and dangerous.

I'm just womdering why the US, EU and the UN is so worried about Iran acquiring nuclear energy.

Iran signed the NPT
Iran can have nuclear under that same NPT
Iran allowed UN inspectors in
Iran does not have nuclear weapons

Israel did not sign the NPT
Israel doesn't allow UN inspectors in
Israel has nuclear weapons

Why this differrence ??
The ME is very instable and the best is that no country has nulcear weapons in that area.

Well  Ingi,  I CAN call you Ingi, cant I?   You hit the nail on the head.  Israel did NOT sign the NPT, so is not subject to its jurisdiction. You may not like that, but that's the bottom line.

That is just SOOOOOO unfair - those damn destablizing Joooooss  are at it again. The issue that comes up in regards to Israel,  and Iraq and Iran concerning ?double standards,? is the nuclear issue. Iraq was invaded because it was suspected of developing nuclear weapons, Iran is under UN Article 7 Binding resolutions and subject to the conditions and terms of being a member of the IAEA, but Israel, suspected of possessing nuclear weapons, has no sanctions imposed upon it. Now why is that? Think about it.

In regard to claims of Iraq building nuclear weapons but that the Israelis secretly possesses them and should have allow inspectors, this again is a canard.

Iraq was, and is, a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation treaty, therefore obligating the Iraqis to the tenets and inspections of the IAEA. So is Iran. Israel never signed the treaty.

Since Israel is not a signatory, it is under no obligation to allow inspections, and cannot be subject to sanctions under the IAEA rules. Membership is voluntary, as is non-membership. Last I heard, it wasnt "ILLEGAL" not to belong to a club, therefore not being subject to its terms and conditions.

Israel is thought to possess a large nuclear arsenal, about which it is not being open and honest, and this is provoking to its neighbors. But it is not evidence of ?double standards?. Being a nuclear-armed power is not, by itself, a breach of international law.

And we ALL know -  even you peace-loving Scandinavians - what would happen to Israel the minute she destroyed her alleged arsenal of nuclear weapons, and the alleged threat of their use, don't we? INSTANT INVASION by her neighbors, as has happened countless times. But you really know that, dont you? Seems the Middle East has been MORE stable since with the knowledge that Israel MIGHT have nukes - it lessens the likelihood of wars of annihilation against it, doesn't it?


Anything still unclear about this?


swhitebull - Life is SOOOOOOOOOOOOO  unfair at times. As Marx said,  I wouldn't want to join a club that would have me as a member.

I'm guessing that it would be a long and proven track record of lying and supporting terrorists.

I'm just womdering why the US, EU and the UN is so worried about Iran acquiring nuclear energy.

Well  Ingi,  I CAN call you Ingi, cant I?  

 

 

You hit the nail on the head.  Israel did NOT sign the NPT, so is not subject to its jurisdiction. You may not like that, but that's the bottom line.

 

That is just SOOOOOO unfair - those damn destablizing Joooooss  are at it again.

Are you saying that I'm against Jews ?
I just ask a question, but whatever, you like to play the " race " card; that says more about you than me. 

The issue that comes up in regards to Israel,  and Iraq and Iran concerning “double standards,” is the nuclear issue. Iraq was invaded because it was suspected of developing nuclear weapons, Iran is under UN Article 7 Binding resolutions and subject to the conditions and terms of being a member of the IAEA, but Israel, suspected of possessing nuclear weapons, has no sanctions imposed upon it. Now why is that? Think about it.

But under the same NPT, Iran can have peaceful nuclear energy, isn't it ??

Iraq was, and is, a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation treaty, therefore obligating the Iraqis to the tenets and inspections of the IAEA. So is Iran. Israel never signed the treaty.

Can Iran retreat from the NPT at will ?
Can any country withdraw from the treaty ?

Since Israel is not a signatory, it is under no obligation to allow inspections, and cannot be subject to sanctions under the IAEA rules. Membership is voluntary, as is non-membership. Last I heard, it wasnt "ILLEGAL" not to belong to a club, therefore not being subject to its terms and conditions.

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Israel is thought to possess a large nuclear arsenal, about which it is not being open and honest, and this is provoking to its neighbors. But it is not evidence of “double standards”. Being a nuclear-armed power is not, by itself, a breach of international law.

Then every country can withdraw from NPT an become nuclear power ?

And we ALL know -  even you peace-loving Scandinavians - what would happen to Israel the minute she destroyed her alleged arsenal of nuclear weapons, and the alleged threat of their use, don't we? INSTANT INVASION by her neighbors, as has happened countless times. But you really know that, dont you? Seems the Middle East has been MORE stable since with the knowledge that Israel MIGHT have nukes - it lessens the likelihood of wars of annihilation against it, doesn't it?

Why do you think that I'm from Scandinavia ?
Play the name card this time ??
Never heard that over 10 million Americans trace their heritage back to Scandinavia ?
Or are only Anglo Saxons real " Americans "
Israel is a very powerful country and can defeat its neighbors without having nukes.
They have won all wars and never used nukes, so why have them ?

Anything still unclear about this?

no, thank you for your time

Why the heck can't you edit posts here ??

In my previous post I forgot to put the text below in blue:

 

 

Then every country can withdraw from NPT an become nuclear power ?

Can Iran retreat from the NPT at will ?
Can any country withdraw from the treaty ?

But under the same NPT, Iran can have peaceful nuclear energy, isn't it ??

Are you saying that I'm against Jews ?
I just ask a question, but whatever, you like to play the " race " card; that says more about you than me. 

Iran is allowed nuclear energy. There are nuclear technologies that cannot be used to produce material for weapons. If Iran wanted just energy then those technologies could be used and there wouldn´t be a problem.

Instead Iran wants exactly those nuclear technologies that can also be used to make weapons. You can see this by the fact that the current stink with Iran is not so much their reactor but their enrichment of uranium. The issue is not so much nuclear energy, but uranium enrichment.

I thought that Russia offered to take care of the nuclear waste that would be produced from Iran's nuclear powerplants.

The feeling I have that we may be wrong again, like we were wrong on Iraq. I don't want another war, just don't like war like some others here probably. Thank you for your answer.

The deal with Russia was that Russia provided the nuclear fuel and took ccare of the waste, Iran said no thank you we want to produce our own fuel. Oh and Iran are now claiming they put something in orbit.

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Iran having a nuclear industry to offset its demands for electricity is fine and dandy, but the problem lies when you see Iran has rejected sveral proposals set by the EU (Light water nuclear reactor and other technlogical benifits) and Russia (fuel shipment) both of which would provide civilian nuclear use and drasticly reduce the chances of their nuclear industry being used to produce nuclear weapons. Also their massive drive to enrich unranium on such a large scale is worrying, as most nuclear reactors use between 6%-30% enriched  unranium, also Iran has currently 1 nuclear reactor, with a few more planed and possibly under construction,(not sure) Iran seems to be wanting something more than nuclear fuel for power. And combine that with their build up of long range missiles... Yeah Iran wants civilian nuclear power, but their opperations seem a bit excessive for just that.

Isreal should not have nuclear weapons, but that is a separate topic. If Isreal does have nuclear weapons, Isreal has shown and proven decades of restraint and has proven to be a dependable possessor of nuclear technology. 

Israel hasn't called for the destruction of another nation, also as well as been aimed at it's neighbors Israel pointed some of their warheads at the Soviet Union, as they believed any Arab invasion would have to have some seroius.

Hezbollah and terrorism are not the only visible forms of Iranian intentions.

 

Running parades with banners calling for the complete destruction of the US and Israel make lots of people uncomfortable.  If the policy you project calls for burning cities to the ground then expect others to want to take your toys away from you.

 

If Iran allowed UN inspection and accounted for the fissionable materials that would be just fine.  The government in Tehran has thumbed its nose at the UN.  So this ain't just the US v. Iran anymore.

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