1- The fact that the President has just publicly compared recent developments on Iraq to the Tet offensive is certainly news:

  Well i agree with you on this one EU,but not if you only continue to tell one side of truth,or distort and ignore real facts for your own view!.

 

2- Deleting posts simply because they express an opinion contrary to your own is nothing but censorship:

 

    Well now i agree completly with this opinion as well!. However again only if your opinion tells both sides of truth,not one side of the coin via One Dimensia!. 

 

3- Even in vigorous discussion, I have always debated in a civil manner, refraining from insults and proving data, external links and arguments:

 

  Well now i cant agree with you on this one? Since insulting someone's grammer skills and correcting them like a child in school, "Is indeed both rude, and showing no class!". And btw EU, insults don't bother me, but expect some of my own in return. So i had nothing to do with censorship,nor do i agree with it's use or employment. However perhap's Sys Ops was justified? Because who wants to debate someone who thinks he is God of the debate,when really we all know he is just being a masturbate? And sorry EU but i think the jury would find you guilty as charged!.

 

                                                                        tigertony

1- The fact that the President has just publicly compared recent developments on Iraq to the Tet offensive is certainly news

 

Feel free to show me the quote from the transcript of the show that is going to be shown on 10/22.

Then we can talk about it.  Till then, you only have assertions. 

 

BTW - Tet was a big millitary win for us.  Not that I would expect you to accept that fact.

 

I think the reason EU got warned was that he continued to insist that Karl Rove was behind the Plame leak, which not even the NYT supports anymore, his continued insistence that "Bush lied," and an utter refusal to listen to any dissenting opinions.  That doesn't seem like a bannable offense to me; to me, it just says that EU's far more comfortable talking in an echo chamber where everyone agrees with him.

 

I don't think his attitude has been any worse than a lot of our left-leaning posters here on the board, and not a few of the right either (I'm thinking of the long lamented On Watch here).  Until he starts claiming Bush did 9/11 and Israel should be destroyed, I don't see any reason for bannination.

 

Having been accidently banned by one of the SysOps many moons ago, and having ALL of my posts - 2 years worth - permanently deleted by accident - I would think an admonishment by them  - and deleting factually incorrect posts - pretty minor.

Only the GOVERNMENT has the power to censor. THIS is a private website, and we all post at the pleasure of the board owners. They probably regard themselves as providing an editorial service, and gave you the courtesy of a warning, rather than out and out banishment.

 

Considering that you HAVE been offensive to other posters, mocking them, and using ad hominem attacks to discredit linked sources, rather than discussing the merits or demerits of an author's work (rather than labeling them "hacks"), I would count your blessings that The Collective didnt use the nucular option on you and your body of work.

 

swhitebull - a gentle wakeup call seems to have gotten your attention.

swhitebull - a gentle wakeup call seems to have gotten your attention

 

The curious thing was that after he got warned he kept posting on the same/similar subjects.

It seems to have taken him more than 24 hours to notice the post by the collective.  Meanwhile he kept posting away.  Kind of reflects the fact he seems to ignore whatever posts disagree with his viewpoint.

 

 

3 things

 

1. TET was a big victory militarily for the good guys (that means US, in case any aren't sure). We should all welcome the comparison...if accurate.

 

2. The only way current endeavor becomes like VN, is if we do exactly what people like you wish for (i.e. quit).

 

3. Censorship is from government only. I suppose this is more hyperbole you guys seem so fond of using, being that your posts/threads were not 'extinguished' by an act of Congress, court ruling, or via executive order.

 

 

 

My post certainly expressed a different opinion to most people here - however, it was structured, civil and far better documented than most posts on this or any other board I am aware of.

I'm personally not given to seeing malice, censorship or plots of any kind - see my previous posts about how, in my opinion, the disapearance of the Lancet threads was "random" and probably caused by "a bug".

However, this incident is of a different nature altogether, and has left a bitter taste regarding the neutrality of StrategyPage and it's role as a place where people with different opinions can freely discuss current events. Given that, I no longer see much point in participating in this forum.

Best of luck, and enjoy yourselves - it has been a pleasure knowing you, and a priviledge to discuss current event with you - including, or even particularly, all those who posted views that I did not agree with.

Heart,

eu4ea

eu4ea

 

I have to say that I've enjoyed most of your posts, and haven't found them to be excessively disruptive to the debate. Wish you'd stick around...as sysop isn't telling you to get lost...just to tone it down.

 

Waltzing

eu4ea,

 

Please stay and continue the good fight. If they yank the plug on you , then you at least go down swinging instead of forfeiting.  Maybe there are some things you need to abide by, maybe some things need to be toned down, but if you are factually correct....your correct....regardless how angry it makes others. I hate being corrected in my grammar and spelling, but I am not competing for a pulitzer on this board, so if I spell something wrong.... too bad, we don't have an "edit" feature so no point in correcting it anyway.

 

At least in Tet offensive we killed a lot of the enemy and made some gains, in Iraq the militias are openly operating in the streets and Sadr is roaming around free. If it were like Tet we would be using massive airpower crushing the militias in multiple cities and Sadr would be going to Iran for refuge.

Well you jab away, on the Strategypage

 and they take one jab at you

Then you whine and cry, about the black eye

 and you challenge them to a duel

Take it from me man, it happens all the time

 and if AK had a dime

 and if AK had a dime

Well

You're so vain

You probably think this post about you (you're so vain)

You're so vain

You probably think this post is about you

Don't you?

Don't you?