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Subject: Hebrew question
YelliChink    5/16/2007 7:13:05 PM
Could someone tell me what does Achzarit and Nagmachon means in Hebrew?
 
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BrittleSteel       5/17/2007 8:40:15 AM
The Nagmachon is a vesion of the Nagmash'ot with is a abbreviation for Nagmash Sh'ot which is an abbreviation for Noseh Guysot Meshoryan Sh'ot which is hebrew for Armoured Personel Carrier Sh'ot, and Sh'ot (meaing whip) is the Israeli for the British Centurion Tank whose chasis the Nagmash and Nagmachon is build on.

Hope that helped

 
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YelliChink       5/17/2007 1:00:07 PM
Thanks a lot!
 
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Shirrush       5/17/2007 1:14:57 PM
'Achzarit means "cruel". I never rode one, but there is a rumor that the asinine moniker is quite accurate, especially regarding the said vehicle's crews, that do not particularly enjoy being buttoned up in a very cramped, sweltering steel box that does not have much ventilation, and don't even mention A/C.
This is an infantry (Golani brigade) vehicle, probably designed to encourage and motivate "golantshikim" to practice what they do best, dismount and walk.
NaGMaKh"on is a typical example of the IDF's acronym insanity, since it is a condensation of NaGMa"sh, which, as stated above, means exactly "APC", and "Gakhon", underbelly: a (tank-based heavy) APC with an up-armored underside, a lesson of the occupation of South Lebanon in the nineties, when it became necessary to give the troops some protection against the Hezb-Allah's oversize IED's.

It now appears that the IDF has made the decision to follow up on the HAPC trend, and to forgo the wheelies such as the Stryker: the new Namer (Leopard), a "menugmash" (APC'ed) Merkava chassis, will be procured from local manufacture during the next decade.  Aside from real armor protection, it will have a ventilation/NBC protection/airconditionning system, and, some say, even a crapper inside. Hopefully some of them will be configured as IFVs, with a RC skeletonized turret sporting a Mk44 30 mm cannon, a MAG, and a couple of NLOS ATGM's in a Bradley-like armored structure.

 
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ingnoway    Akzarit   5/19/2007 8:04:30 PM

'Achzarit means "cruel". I never rode one, but there is a rumor that the asinine moniker is quite accurate, especially regarding the said vehicle's crews, that do not particularly enjoy being buttoned up in a very cramped, sweltering steel box that does not have much ventilation, and don't even mention A/C.
This is an infantry (Golani brigade) vehicle, probably designed to encourage and motivate "golantshikim" to practice what they do best, dismount and walk.
NaGMaKh"on is a typical example of the IDF's acronym insanity, since it is a condensation of NaGMa"sh, which, as stated above, means exactly "APC", and "Gakhon", underbelly: a (tank-based heavy) APC with an up-armored underside, a lesson of the occupation of South Lebanon in the nineties, when it became necessary to give the troops some protection against the Hezb-Allah's oversize IED's.

It now appears that the IDF has made the decision to follow up on the HAPC trend, and to forgo the wheelies such as the Stryker: the new Namer (Leopard), a "menugmash" (APC'ed) Merkava chassis, will be procured from local manufacture during the next decade.  Aside from real armor protection, it will have a ventilation/NBC protection/airconditionning system, and, some say, even a crapper inside. Hopefully some of them will be configured as IFVs, with a RC skeletonized turret sporting a Mk44 30 mm cannon, a MAG, and a couple of NLOS ATGM's in a Bradley-like armored structure.


Ak=Brother, zar=foreign and it=self. Therefore, it's a good and bad situation word?
 
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