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Shirrush    8/26/2007 3:18:04 PM
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Shirrush    Here you go:   8/26/2007 3:25:20 PM
Hi everybody. Just to make sure you get it right.
Hopefully, this will be useful in order to translate into plain English, the language employed by the French and Eurolefty media when reporting on that particular angle of the global Jihad.

A Small Dictionary of Middle-East Stereotypes (1st part) (info # 012308/7 EV) [analysis]

By Laurent Murawiec in Washington © Metula News Agency

 

AFP (the French semi-official news agency): A press agency in charge of the Palestinian Authority’s external propaganda. (See also Reuters).

Al-Andalus: A terrestrial paradise; irrefutable proof that Islamic imperialism is a blessing for all, and that everyone adores it. Never mention pogroms committed by the Almohads and others against Jews and Christians, or the constitutive inferiority in which they were plunged.

Ambulance: A van covered with insignia of the Red Crescent. Its principal functions are: (1) the transport of terrorists to the site of an attack, (2) the transport of weapons, (3) televised exhibition (see: CNN, BBC, France 2, etc.) if struck by a projectile, and (4), if necessary, the transport of wounded (get false ones if there are no real ones at hand and arrive at the hospital in a real light and sound show, after having tipped the above-mentioned media). Never forget, more generally, the staging of Palestinian suffering.

Amnesty International: A Palestinian kills a Jew: what reasons did the Jew give the Palestinian to justify the latter’s act? Cf. Amnesty International report No 943/b/5 “43 good reasons”!

Arab: A victim incarnate of imperialism, colonialism and exploitation (see also: Bank accounts in Switzerland).

Arab army: A military body with varied functions: (1) to get crushed by the opposing armies, (2) to massacre the civilian population of its own country, (3) to absorb such a level of the GNP that nothing is left

 
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jastayme3       8/26/2007 5:17:52 PM
Great Job! I always needed to be educated. Now I know more and my infidel ignorance is cleansed away!
 
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PlatypusMaximus       8/26/2007 5:36:36 PM
I still don't know the difference between a Youth and an Activist.
 
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nominoe       8/27/2007 11:27:09 AM
Interesting. You don't seem to like the french very much don't you?

Israel will never forgive France for living in peace with it's neighborhood and with it's history, as Israel don't.
More, Israel will never forgive France for having secured a better fate post WWII for it's people.

Though, France did a lot for Israel even if you are too proud to admit it. It pisses me off to read such BS from "metula". In france insulting Jews is punished by the law, but insulting the french seems to be widely accepted in Israel. Make your own conclusions.
 
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swhitebull       8/27/2007 11:58:25 AM

Interesting. You don't seem to like the french very much don't you?
Your actions make it very easy to dislike you, n'est-ce pas?


Israel will never forgive France for living in peace with it's neighborhood and with it's history, as Israel don't.
This comment makes no sense, with no context. It is a non-sequitor. You are arguing from emotion, not logic.

More, Israel will never forgive France for having secured a better fate post WWII for it's people.
Why should the Israelis care one way or the other? Again,  you make no sense - except perhaps for wounded pride.


Though, France did a lot for Israel even if you are too proud to admit it. It pisses me off to read such BS from "metula". In france insulting Jews is punished by the law, but insulting the french seems to be widely accepted in Israel. AND ELSEWHERE,  like in the United States. Perhaps it might have something to do with the chronic and perfidious behavior that normally afflicts French foreign policy, like the backstabbing of supposed allies that was done to Colin Powell in the run-up to the invasion of Iraq, where French gave Powell certain promises but then acted differently? Or the OIL FOR FOOD scandal that seems to have involved most French politicians?    
 
Draw your own conclusions. 
 
 We DID. Deal with it.
 

We humbly suggest that you get your self-righteous head out of your nether regions, and look at how helpful a "friend" France has been to the Jews and Israelis since WW2. Perhaps you should start with "The Sorrow and the Pity", or show how French Vichyites gleefully competed to outdo each other in meeting SS quotas for rounding up Jews for the Murder Camps.
 
Another journey might take you to the Saar Missile boats affair, or DeGaulle's cutoff of Dassault airplatforms at a time when Israel needed them the most.  That corresponded at a time when their was a large influx of arabic-speaking peoples into France. Coincidence?  NOT LIKELY.
 
Or perhaps looiing at Chirac's love fest with Hizbollah several years ago, or France's BLUSTER at the Israelis over how the French would administer their duties in Lebanon over enforcing the UN resolutions by threatening to shoot down IAF planes that are doing the job of reconnaissance that should be done by the blue berets?
 
 
Most importantly, perhaps you should READ about how the death of Mohammed Dura was fabricated in the French media, and the part that Metullah had in exposing the big lie. (along withthe US publication Atlantic Monthly, among others, hardly a disreputable source.) Metullah was dead on in their reporting. You just dont like reading these inconvenient truths, since they hold the French out publicly for their unsavory reporting and obvious prejudicial bias.
 
 
swhitebull -  excuse me while I need to take a shower to wash of the stench of self-righteousness emanating from another cheese-eating surrender monkey. (Hats off to Homer Simpson.)
 
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Shirrush       8/27/2007 12:33:42 PM

Interesting. You don't seem to like the french very much don't you?
I am as French as you are, and I do like me as well as a lot of other Frenchies. The fact that I'm Jewish and that I rather accidentally moved to Israel a geologically long time ago does not mean that I take no interest in what goes on in the Gauls, and I must confess I am as concerned with this country's abject intellectual degeneration as are my compatriots Murawiec and Millière.
Israel will never forgive France for living in peace with it's neighborhood and with it's history, as Israel don't.
More, Israel will never forgive France for having secured a better fate post WWII for it's people.
You're right, Israel will not forgive France for attempting to purchase it's peace, repeatedly, with the blood of the Jewish people. After "these nazis are not so bad after all", it became "better red than dead", and now, you're quite willing to feed us to an even greener crocodile so that you can keep on with your pathetic little lifestyle experiments and your fiercely enforced, mandatory fashions for a little while longer.
As to the people of France having a better "post WWII fate" than the Israelis, I do not think that you know what you're talking about. One of the main reasons I stayed in Israel is, rather paradoxically, that I felt freer here than in France, where the obligatory intellectual fad of the moment and the lack of basic tolerance would deprive me of much of my freedom of expression and expose me at random to supercilious censorship, ridicule and opprobrium. In Israel, I can k my mind to whomever I choose in whatever terms I deem appropriate, wear whatever is on the top shelf of my clothes cabinet, and whistle any tune I wish without fearing being called a "buffoon", or whatever slur you French reserve nowadays for someone that dares threading out of the "in" furrow.
Though, France did a lot for Israel even if you are too proud to admit it. It pisses me off to read such BS from "metula". In france insulting Jews is punished by the law, but insulting the french seems to be widely accepted in Israel. Make your own conclusions.
Did what? Let it down in the middle of a military crisis when they were Israel's main arms supplier, only to immediately switch sides to its most dangerous enemies? There were a few years of friendship when France was rebuilding while fighting colonial wars, and when Israel and Zionism were fashionable with the Left. It didn't last, but the anger for
France's outrageous betrayal and its subsequent hostility and Arafat-coddling will last for a long time, and many other developing countries have, and will forever think twice about getting closer to France, which I sincerely deplore.

La Ména is an Israeli, French-speaking medium residing for some obscure reason at the northern tip of Israel. Most of its writers are French and proud to be French. Nobody there (or here) insults the French or disparages France in any way. Concern for that country, and criticism of the wrong turns it has taken, should not be taken as an insult to the French as a nation, since what we're raging about here are only the French foreign policy, the state-controlled media with their "pens
ée unique", the social and intellectual pathologies typical to France, and some Frenchmen that have taken upon themselves to be the sworn enemies of Israel, the Jews, and/or the West. You've seen me reacting to the French-bashing threads, haven't you?
I will not tolerate racist slurs against any group, and especially not against one I belong to. I'm a French Jew, capisce?


 
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Shirrush    Swhitebull   8/27/2007 12:54:46 PM
Weird that we were apparently writing up our posts at the same time...
Your last sentence was, however, unnecessarily harsh. Homer's quip, just like cheese, was good while it was fresh. It has long since reached its expiry date, IMHO.

What I do like with Matt Groening, is that he pulls no punches to anybody while always avoiding to be excessive or defamatory. Everyones gets his turn!
The Evangelical Christians (Ned Flanders), the Jews (Krusty the clown), the Indians (Apu), the liberals (Marge & Lisa), the Dems, the Republicans, The POTUS, everybody!

 
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nominoe       8/27/2007 1:01:46 PM
Who is arguing from emotion now? there is no need to used red, lol! But i will answer you :

Your actions make it very easy to dislike you :

France is not disliked in the world. On the other hand, Israel...

This comment makes no sense

It makes sense. The fact that some posters here always come to the good old Vichy history underlines that despite all what is done in france to remember holocaust, to punish antisemitism, to protect the french jews (yes they are fully french) some of you will never forgive, and would like to see france dying by the hands of the arabs. By the way, it was Chirac who recognise french responsability during the vichy regime (before, it was admitted that the true french government was in england with de Gaulle). And he was right to do so.

Why should the Israelis care one way or the other? Again,  you make no sense - except perhaps for wounded pride.

Israelis do care because some of them think that the french don't deserve peace and should pay more and more for WWII. You think that way. By the way, the French suffered greatly in the XX century, and french were victims during WWII.

AND ELSEWHERE,  like in the United States. Perhaps it might have something to do with the chronic and perfidious behavior that normally afflicts French foreign policy, like the backstabbing of supposed allies that was done to Colin Powell in the run-up to the invasion of Iraq, where French gave Powell certain promises but then acted differently? Or the OIL FOR FOOD scandal that seems to have involved most French politicians?  

French are no more insulted in the USA. that didn't last long. I would like to say so with Israel. About collin Powell, didn't he provided FALSE proof of WMD program? The french were right about Irak. that's not a question, that's a fact. As for  the oil for foodgive me a break, Israelis politician are among the most corrupted in the world. Olmert, katsav, even a general who sold parts before attacking lebanon...Ans if you look through american history, you can found a lot of dirty little things as well.

We DID. Deal with it.

Well that's your right. As a french i don't like to be insulted, that's my right.

Another journey might take you to the Saar Missile boats affair, or DeGaulle's cutoff of Dassault airplatforms at a time when Israel needed them the most.

Israel owe de Gaulle the Dimona reactor and it's A bomb. something you should not forget. De Gaulle's cutoff of mirages was becase Israel betrayed the french. maybe it was wrong, but it was not without reasons.

look at how helpful a "friend" France has been to the Jews and Israelis since WW2. Perhaps you should start with "The Sorrow and the Pity", or show how French Vichyites gleefully competed to outdo each other in meeting SS quotas for rounding up Jews for the Murder Camps.

You can search "jean moulin", or one of the 2775 french "Justes" (don't know how it's said in english) honored by israel, or  "chambon sur lignon" to balance that.

threatening to shoot down IAF planes that are doing the job of reconnaissance that should be done by the blue berets?

Reconnaissance... do you mean like this agressive overflight that could have been a real attack from two IAF F15 over french troops? or this agressive overflight of a german frigate? Pretty tough for reckon flights....

Mohammed Dura
Don't know him. I will check.

to take a shower to wash of the stench of self-righteousness emanating from another cheese-eating surrender monkey.

Now that's pretty emotional... don't start to cry. You should use cold water for your shower, just to calm down. And stop insults, because you just prove my words. The only thing I want is respect for my country. You wan't, you take.
 
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jastayme3       8/28/2007 12:15:47 AM

Weird that we were apparently writing up our posts at the same time...
Your last sentence was, however, unnecessarily harsh. Homer's quip, just like cheese, was good while it was fresh. It has long since reached its expiry date, IMHO.

What I do like with Matt Groening, is that he pulls no punches to anybody while always avoiding to be excessive or defamatory. Everyones gets his turn!
The Evangelical Christians (Ned Flanders), the Jews (Krusty the clown), the Indians (Apu), the liberals (Marge & Lisa), the Dems, the Republicans, The POTUS, everybody!



The mark of a good comic is making fun of everyone while not being excessive. And actually I rather liked Ned Flanders.
 
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jastayme3       8/28/2007 12:20:25 AM

I still don't know the difference between a Youth and an Activist.



Youths grow up.
 
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