jeez that's icky. I guess you get a lot of that in war but.... I would so much rather just be shot or bombed than be whacked by an exploding rat. So much to explain on a tombstone...

That is some of the scariest s&^% I've read in a while. A friend tells me that the navy used dolphins to patrol harbors against unfriendlies, and I know they used them to sweep for mines in the gulf. I've heard in WWII scientists experimented with using pigeons to guide bombs to their targets (ships), but the cyberanimal is frightening from perspectives both moral and military. The potential applications are staggering.

and then there are the famous Bat Bombs that were to be used against Tokyo as flying incendiaries - Unfortunately they burnt the lab and facilities down. ;) Then there is the bugged cat that the CIA implanted with a transmitter for future use in the moscow station. They spent months testing the furry maxwell smart. On the day of the demo they went outside and the cat got hit by a car. squashed like a bug (sorry - bad pun) the folly of not only trying to get animals to do your dirty work... ;)

The next revolution in SSN design will come from the following area 1) amorphous steel---tensile strength as high as 270 psi 2) rhondite steel---as tough and ductile as HY-80 but three times the tensile strength---240 psi 3) cheaper TI-120 Titanium which is 40% lighter but has 50% more tensile strength than HY 80 4) carbon nanotube reinforce steel---- steel with HY-80 ductility but much higher strength 5) high strength resin reinforce by cheaper carbon fibre 6) High temperature super conductor electric motor that increase the power density of electric drive 7) a reliable and corrosion resistant liquid metal coolant high power density nuclear reactor---probably lead bismuth or sodium----currently such reactor is too unreliable and dangerous. But if reliability problem is solved through commercial program by DOE via gnereation IV reactor technology, a military version is possible 8) magnetohydrodymaic nuclear reactor---using MHD to convert nuclear energy into electricity directly--but not using MHD to push water directly as that will have huge magnetic signature 9) distributed electric engine running pump jet to reduce the cost of electric drive 10) nanophase steel---ductile and high strength but use different principle and fabrication technique from amorphous steel 11) ANTI SOUND device---using sound generator to generate a opposite sound wave to cancel most of the sub emitted sound---a acoustic version of ACTIVE stealth. 12) huge 30 inch diameter long range and maneuvrable super cavitating torpedo 13) 6000 ib ramjet cruise missile in verticle tube to replace tomahawk---such missile has a mach 3 surface skimming speed and a range of at least 500 km and a powerful dual mode seeker---lidar and infrared. 14) cheaper double hull construction technique 15) torpedo launch by large UUV 16) submarine launch fire and forget anti aircraft missile against ASW aircraft 17) long range anti-torpedo missile or torpedo in huge number---at least 20 18) 30 inch torpedo with varaible speed---using new high density fuel cell if possible in order to reduce acoustic signature---thermal power source is less stealthy 19) 30 inch turbojet missile-torpedo to replace the cancelled sea lance---range 150 km and the payload is a 18 inch torpedo or super cavitating torpedo. This missile-torpedo is at least 6000 pound and possible larger 20 innocative missile packing tube that enable the payload of SSN to increase dramtically. The bench mark is OHIO class sub---it is 18700 ton and has a missile load that is 24x60 ton= 1440 ton---meaning 7 % of the submarine submerged displacement is missile weight---excluding torpedo. In reality is a new ssn can has a missile payload that is 3.5% of the submarine submerged displacement, it would have been a very remarkable achievement----meaning a 12000 ton ssn will carry 420 ton worth of missile, meaning 84 huge 5 ton missile. This is FAR more than what LA class and Seawolf inefficient missile tube an dtorpedo tube can carry. With clever use of DOUBLE hull and design, it is possible to carry 84 5 ton ramjet missile or torpedo armed turbojet missile. You just need 10 such SSN or SSGN to destroy the whole of the surface NAVY of most countries on earth. Of course you need some aerial and satellite asset to assist in mid-course targeting---global hawak is a good asset, so is reconnassaince fighter or aircraft from aircraft carrier of land base. 21) very hig power sonic weapon to destroy or jam the sonar of enemy torpedo or warship. 22) ways to reduce the number of crew by 67% 23) super long range and reliable low probability intercept active sonar----passive sonar is useless against AIP sub that is stationary and lying in ambush 23) mini rotor craft launch from sub to aid targeting---use hummingbird rotor design to extend range. 24) quantum computer to perform signal processing 25 super smooth hull to reduce friction 26) high density fuel cell for super stealthy movement during transit---reactor shut down temporarily---fuel cell run electric motor through electric drive 27) more advance decoy in large number ---need double hull to increase loadout 28) Run out of idea :)

how about a uuv that is stationed lets say in the yellow sea.it would just sit there waiting to be activated and say its equipped with ten torpedos.any ship it detects nearby in a war situation is an instant reef addition.

[11) ANTI SOUND device---using sound generator to generate a opposite sound wave to cancel most of the sub emitted sound---a acoustic version of ACTIVE stealth.] Already exists to some extent - in a different fashion. Not everything appears in the pub domain.

[how about a uuv that is stationed lets say in the yellow sea.it would just sit there waiting to be activated and say its equipped with ten torpedos.any ship it detects nearby in a war situation is an instant reef addition ] Already exists to some extent. The range is limited but the technology and principle "tasking" is in use.

Its true, or at any rate there's a rat bomb on exhibit in les Invalides (Frnch military museum), about booby bombs placed against germans.

This sort of negating noise is used in some stereo headphones

New nano-steels/titaniums reinforced with buckytubes etc. are the way to go, if you can control the process quickly/cheaply. In the meantime ultrasound weapons will shake the flaws in your structure until they break. For all platforms. All naval assets are going electric, so superconducting motors and alternators make sense to develop. Ejectable sonar Jammers would increase survival chances. Remotely controled points of action (attack/wait/minesweep/defend/intercept) is a large area of possible advance. Given the large supply of tritrium available in oceans a fusion power plant is still worth reaching for. Super SMOOOTH (25) surface to reduce friction? Reactive surface or complex surface is more likely to succeed. Charged water/fluid drives (using charged water/oil to move uncharged water) need not be detectable. Since subsurface platforms offer greater chance of survival and stealth all naval assets could go subsurface (including naval air and landing craft). Quantum computers would depend on a positive (solvable) outcome for complex problems to be of much extra use. Such solutions would rock our world to the extent that all talk of fighting/winning/preventing conflict would be redundant. Any conflict would have a best fit solution for all to see. Paradise or hell, who can tell?