Why has the US never adopted 650mm torpedos like the Russians?  I have read they are twice the weight of these "heavy" weight torpedos.... and the USSR sure did have large cruisers for the sinking.

"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DwEbEelU-A&mode=related&search="

 

The wallop was big enough in the Mark 48.

 

I suspect that the Russian fish are bigger because as wake-homers designed to sink carriers, the Russians wanted long ranged torpedoes as well as a big warhead, because they found it difficult to sneak up on American carriers in their subs without being sunk.

 

The actual performance of a 65-76 "Kit' is said by some to be up to 100 kilometers in endurance with a pursuit speed of better than twenty meters per second. Said torpedoes are supposed to use a 450 kilogram warhead and to be optimized for anti-surface warfare. Endurance running time if your interested is supposed to be in excess of 4500 seconds or one and a quarter hours.

 

By contrast the 53 centimeter diameter Mark 48 ADCAP is supposed to be a 30+ kilometer range torpedo able to pursue submarines at speeds greater than 25 meters per second. That torpedo uses a 295 kilogram warhead that is optimized for hydraulic shock effect(see above video for the pulse effect) for anti-submarine warfare. Its endurance run  time if you noticed is somewhere in the neighborhood of 1200+ seconds or 1/3 of an hour.

 

In the case of both torpedoes I suspect the performance figures are underestimates. In the case of the Russian fish, not by much. In the case of the Mark 48? Definitely, and by a good margin.

 

This is a case of Russian apples and American pears. That is not to say that the Mark 48 cannot slice your average frigate, cruiser, or freighter in two.

 

Herald

 

 

 

 

 I remember GF intentionally avoiding the discussion by giving a bunch of information and saying nothing at all at the same time.

A clever skill.

watch your body language gf 

you don't normally use a smile like this...  looks like a cheshire cat smile.. 

I was exercising discretion.

In the case of CBASS it will have a restricted user base.  ie USN and RAN.

 

Thats primarily because its been designed to work in with the AN/BYG-1.  The only users of AN/BYG-1 are some 688i Class, Virginia Class, Seawolf Class and Collins Class.

 

You could use it without AN/BYG-1 - but the benefit is that the combat system and the CBASS have been developed to work with each other, more or less a "technology admiration society"

 

There's a huge amount of conventional sub data built into both systems so as to make life miserable for an enemy conventional. That data also includes knowledge shared and harvested with our fellow sub sister services over the last 50-60 years.  There's a huge amount of water behaviour/oceanography physics built in.  Its literally battle changing technology. Those torps carry more event data onboard than some warships.

 

If a Mk48 can split open a Typhoon, imagine what it will do to a Kilo etc.....

 

 

gf - you just deepened my belief that the MK-48 is a UUV and not just a weapon.