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Subject: Indian nuke sub on the way
Herc the Merc    3/19/2007 12:21:17 PM
India launches 1st nuclear submarine

Vishal Thapar
CNN-IBN
Posted Monday , March 19, 2007 at 18:34
Updated Monday , March 19, 2007 at 18:42 Email Print

INDIA?S OWN: Sea trials for the submarine are slated to begin by 2010, and are expected to be fully operational by 2012.

New Delhi: India is set to launch its first nuclear submarine later this year which if successful will put the country in an extremely exclusive club.


The project codenamed the Advanced Technology Vessel has been crawling since the 1970s.


Reports now indicate that India has overcome the biggest problem or miniaturisation of a nuclear power plant that is to be mounted on a submarine hull.


There are whispers of Russian assistance with the mini nuclear plant that has been reportedly tested and validated at Kalpakkam.


The vessel will be launched in Vishakapatnam and sea trials for this submarine are slated to begin by 2010, and are expected to be fully operational by 2012.


The vessel displaces 6, 500 tonnes and can stay submerged for upto 100 days. Armed with guided missiles, it will have a crew of 70 people.


The last time the Indian Navy operated a nuclear submarine was in the late 1980s, when it leased a Russian Charlie class vessel.


India is also in negotiations to acquire two Russian-made nuclear submarines of the Akula class.

 
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scuttlebut steve       3/19/2007 5:39:35 PM
If they got a lot of help from russia, I just hope that they made some indeginous safety improvements because even the newest russian naval nuclear reactors have safety records that leave something to be desired when compared to the old US S5W reactors from the 60's, let alone modern USN reactors
 
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Herald1234    Launch of a project does not=launch of a sub.   3/20/2007 1:18:03 AM
Where's the original link so I can judge the validity of the claim for myself?
 
Herald
 
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Herald1234    Found the story.   3/20/2007 1:48:03 AM
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Rumor reported. Assertion given without proof again.
 
Do better, HtJ. Need sources and e.v.d.e.n.ce.e. Otherwise this report like the ABM test report is just so much malarkey, which seems to be the HtJ norm when citing "proof".
 
Herald 
 
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gf0012-aust       3/21/2007 1:59:16 AM

If they got a lot of help from russia, I just hope that they made some indeginous safety improvements because even the newest russian naval nuclear reactors have safety records that leave something to be desired when compared to the old US S5W reactors from the 60's, let alone modern USN reactors


The poor IN got dudded by the russians last time around.  They leased them a nuke that was regarded as jinxed.  If memory serves, it sank at moorings twice, and IIRC, some sailors refused to sail in it.

 
 
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Herc the Merc       3/22/2007 8:06:02 PM
Some Important stats:
  • Vessel Type: Submarine
  • Country: India
  • Program Advanced Technology Vessel (ATV)
  • Total Number 4-6 Unit Cost (US$) 1B (Est.)
  • Builder Vishakapatnam Naval Dockyard (VND) with assistance from Mazagon Dock Ltd. (MDL).
  • Displ. Tons 5,500 – 6,500
  • Length 100m (328ft)
  • Beam 15m (49.2ft) 
  • Draft 9m (29.5ft)
  • Machinery Nuclear: one pressurized water reactor (PWR) using 20% enriched uranium fuel (160-190MW); one turbine (47,000hp/70MW); one shaft; one 7-bladed, high-skew propeller. 
  • Speed (Knots) 12-15 (surfaced) 30-34 (submerged).
  • Range Unlimited. Diving Depth 300 m (984.2ft).
  • Complement Undetermined.
  • Weapons Torpedoes: Six 21 inch (533mm) torpedo tubes. Mines. A total capacity (mines, torpedoes, and missiles) of 30 weapons.
  • Missiles Submarine launched cruise missiles (SLCM) using either a vertical launch system or a torpedo tube launch, surface-to-surface missiles (SSMs), and a submarine launched ballistic missile (SLBM).
 
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Herald1234    SAtill going with 5 year old dreamlists and unsubstantiated rumors I see.   3/22/2007 8:20:04 PM
Herald
 
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Francois       3/25/2007 2:19:00 AM
They are years (not to say decades) from having one indeginious SSN correctly operating at see.
Now, I would believe when I see it.
And even they persist for 20 years, they are going to field a Han equivalent for the price of ten american SSNs (which are the most expensive btw), not operable nor replicable.
 
As for the 971 deal, it as much advertize in India as "done" as it is in Russia as "It is a NO GO!".
Again, I don't trust unfinished russian boats revived after 15 years of "cocoon".
The British 1400s were in a better shape when sold to Canada, see what I mean?
But again, human life in Asia and in Western countries has not the same value.
 
Again, wait and see... maybe the children of our grand-children will see them, sailing along the 09-3 or else dream boat?
 
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