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Subject: Two Nations Go Fighterless
James Dunnigan    11/20/2005 12:46:59 AM


Another Pacific island nation has gotten rid of its air force. Well, sort of. New Zealand sold off its warplanes, after disbanding its fighter force in 2001. Last month, the Philippines removed from service its eight F-5 fighters. These 1960s era aircraft were not much of a match for any more recent warplanes, and expensive to maintain. The Philippines, like New Zealand, has kept helicopters, and some reconnaissance aircraft, in service. The Philippines is also keeping in service five S211 jet trainers, which can be used for ground attack, or air-to-air operations (like against terrorists who have hijacked an aircraft.) In both cases, the nations in question saw no practical need for a jet fighter force. While this is dicey for the Philippines, which faces possible clashes with China, New Zealand is nowhere near any hostile nation?s air power. But the Filipinos are being practical, as they could never afford to buy and maintain warplanes sufficient to deal with a Chinese air threat. Like New Zealand, the Philippines depends on its friendship with the United States for protection. American warplanes provide better protection than any jet fighters New Zealand and the Philippines could put in the air.
 
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ssfeldjager    RE:Two Nations Go Fighterless    11/23/2005 7:24:00 PM
OK... I can see the strategic value of the US defending the Phillipines. Explain New Zealand to me. Except for losing kiwi birds, what else is there to defend?
 
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NickD    RE:Two Nations Go Fighterless    11/26/2005 5:44:09 AM
The statement that New Zealand "depends on its friendship with the United States for protection. American warplanes provide better protection than any jet fighters New Zealand ... could put in the air" seems to indicate that you are unaware that New Zealand has not been allied to the United States since the 1980s. Following NZ's decision to ban nuclear powered or armed ships from its waters NZ was excluded from the ANZUS alliance. As a result, the US has no commitment to provide air defence for either New Zealand or New Zealand military units deployed overseas. Rather than the US, NZ relies on Australian fighters for air defence (the bilateral Australian-NZ alliance remains strong). Given that you're claiming that this website is more accurate than the media, I'd sugest that you check your facts more carefully.
 
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