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Subject: Guard, Reserves To Be Reorganized
macawman    7/14/2003 9:57:09 AM
Washington Times July 14, 2003 Pg. 1 Rumsfeld orders new plans by end of the month By Rowan Scarborough, The Washington Times Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld has ordered the Army, Air Force, Navy and Marines to draft plans for a sweeping restructuring of the 900,000-strong National Guard and reserve forces. In a July 9 memo to the four service secretaries and the Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman, Mr. Rumsfeld said he wants to reduce the need for calling up large numbers of reservists in a war and to do away with it altogether in the first 15 days of a crisis. He also does not want any unit called up for more than one year in any six years. "I consider this a matter of the utmost urgency," Mr. Rumsfeld said in the three-page memorandum, a copy of which was obtained by The Washington Times. He wants the military's plan by the end of this month as he continues to adjust the total force for a long global war on terrorism. The defense secretary suggests that civilians, corporations or technologies could perform some reserve roles. A military official said one option is to redirect the Guard and reserves to homeland defense and shift overseas-deploying reserve units to the 1.4 million active force. Larry DiRita, a Rumsfeld spokesman, said September 11 is spurring the Pentagon to look at all sorts of changes, including rebalancing the active and reserve forces. "His objective is making sure that every time you want to take action in the world we're in now, you don't have to call up a lot of reserves to do it," Mr. DiRita said. The reserves are home to a number of units that are crucial to winning wars and stabilizing global hot spots. There are now 204,000 Guardsmen and reservists on active duty. Many of the 10,000 military police in Iraq, for example, are reservists. Mr. Rumsfeld has complained that too many war-fighting skills lie exclusively, or nearly exclusively, in the reserves. This means the full deployment of troops overseas for a crisis is delayed while those units are mobilized. Most Army civil-affairs soldiers are reservists. They are playing critical roles in both Afghanistan and Iraq as peacekeepers. The soldiers provide humanitarian aid and improvements to homes, hospitals and schools. The Air Force relies heavily on reserves to man its aerial refueling fleet, while the Army must often call up military-police units in a crisis. Mr. Rumsfeld's memo sets out 10 "actions for force rebalance" - a phrase that means he wants to see plans for moving some reserve units to active duty and some active-duty units to the reserves. "Specifically address capabilities that reside exclusively or predominately in the [reserve component] and are in high demand because of on-going operations and the Global War on Terror, capabilities that are required for homeland defense missions and capabilities critical to post-hostilities operations," the July 9 Rumsfeld order states. The secretary also wants the services to develop ways, such as increased pay, to induce reservists to volunteer for active duty when needed. "Make the mobilization and demobilization process more efficient," the Rumsfeld memo states. "When reservists are used, ensure that they are given meaningful work and work for which alternative manpower is not readily available. Retain on active duty only as long as absolutely necessary." Robert Maginnis, a retired Army lieutenant colonel and a TV military analyst, said the changes Mr. Rumsfeld is talking about would reverse changes made after the Cold War ended. Then, units were shifted to the reserves to help shrink the active force from 2 million to today's 1.4 million. "The type of people we're putting into the reserves are the types of people we now need on active duty to fight the war and who specialize in stabilization," Mr. Maginnis said. "What future thinkers said peacekeeping operations would be a primary mission for a large part of the force? They didn't. Future thinkers didn't envision we would have 9/11." This is not the first memo Mr. Rumsfeld has sent out on the issue. In November, he sent a memo to senior officials asking them to find reserve units that should be shifted to active duty. "I would like a list of what those things are, and then an indication of what the various services are doing to put those critical skills back on active duty, rather than in the Reserves," he wrote then. But officials say that planning was delayed. Weeks later, the military began a methodical buildup of more than 200,000 troops in the Persian Gulf for Operation Iraqi Freedom. Now that major combat operations have ended, Mr. Rumsfeld is renewing efforts to rebalance the force. "Rumsfeld's decision to rebalance the forces is prudent," Col. Maginnis said. "Otherwise, continued reliance on mobilizing reserves will damage retention and recruitment. Our reserves componen
 
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Horsesoldier    RE:Roundout Brigades/Battalions   6/9/2004 4:41:09 PM
>>It is going to be interesting to see what happens with the lineage and honors of all those patches from the 26th through 45th divisions, some of which have already gone. << Bunches of them kicked down to brigade size.
 
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BR1GAND    RE:Roundout Brigades/Battalions   6/10/2004 2:42:43 AM
>>I'm guessing you're either a current or former Army Reservist . . . or National Guardsman. Yes and yes. But evidently I havent been paying close enough attention to what happened to the Round Out forces over the past decade.
 
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AlbanyRifles    Lineage and Honors   6/10/2004 10:00:37 AM
I know a lot of those divisions are now brigades (for instance, 3rd brigade, 29 ID is the 26 Bde, formally the 26 INF DIV-Great Irony there....Yankee Division being part of a unit with a LOT of Confederate Heritage!!!) What I was referring too was what happens to the lineage an dhonors of an artillery battalion which converts to MP.....I know this has happened in the past, but I believe we are getting ready to see it on a much larger scale than ever. For instamce, we had an instance where a soldier from Virginia died in Iraq last week. He was a member of 3 Bn, 112 FA NJARNG. But when they deployed to Iraq, they had been retrained as MPs. So they went with FA colors but were MP companies, not batteries. This stuff tends to muddy the waters....the Institute of Heraldry will earn their pay on this stuff!
 
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BR1GAND    RE:Guard, Reserves To Be Reorganized- Ready Reserves?   6/20/2004 12:27:30 PM
I wish there were positions in the Reserves each unit that were semi active. I know that the Guard has AGR positions, but I'd like to see additional funding for high demand jobs where you could work near full time if you were able. In the Guard they have "Guard Bums", guys that would always hang around and try pick up any funding crumbs that alowed them work on active status. Typically these are college students who are looking for part-time work that pays a bit more then your normal drill schedule allows.
 
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doggtag    RE:Guard bums   6/20/2004 1:14:45 PM
I agree with you a good bit, BR1GAND. As I am currently doing work with the PA Army Nat'l Guard, and having seen some "comparable" US Army Reserve components, perhaps the restructuring should actually be more geared to looking for more "Guard Bums": For the most part, the "bums" around Ft Indiantown Gap (PA's primary Guard training site) are decent, hard working types (as far as temp techs go), and a good handful ARE indeed college students who are looking for adequate work between semesters. Almost always, the person applying for an AGR temp slot (or ADSW during critical periods) must have some minimal MOS-related training in the skill position they are applying for (like my electronics MOS gives me preferred access to several other electronics-related positions over someone in supply or admin applying for the position). And even though it is a federal law for employers to "permit" their employees to be Guardians or Reservists, I have personally seen a few of my buddies get screwed over by employers upon returning from Operation Enduring Freedom. Employers can fabricate all manner of excuses to not hire back the returning veterans. Perhaps the solution, in light of the amount of "part timers" who deploy now, would be to assign a major portion of the stateside (CONUS) maintenance roles to Guard and Reserve units, and maintain the federal Army as the deployable units. With the continuing BRAC program seriously disrupting many communities, perhaps the example as here in PA, where several years ago after the federal Army "pulled out", the state "acquired" Ft IG as its primary site, and funds the majority of all operations. We quite frequently have done maintenance on outbound/inbound federal Army equipment, and US Army and USAF pilots routinely visit our gunnery ranges (esp A-10s and F-16s). Perhaps each state could "buy" one or two closed or closing federal installations. In effect, providing a strong stateside maintenance contingent, available quarters for mobilizating/returning troops, a decent training area for military personnel and equipment, and even provide an excellent job market for local civilans and returning veterans who experience difficult civilian employer situations. And again from my personal work alongside college-bound "Guard bums", I would actually rather work with them than the "moochers" who are only out to get their 20 Year Letter or finish their retirement in a state-payrolled non-deployable unit. .
 
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BR1GAND    RE:Reserves vs Guard Roles?   7/1/2004 6:40:15 PM
Does anyone know why Guard (state run) units shouldnt be primarily made up of service/support and transportation type units? And why Reserve (federally run) units shouldnt consist of primarily combat arms type units?
 
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Horsesoldier    RE:Reserves vs Guard Roles?   7/1/2004 7:11:03 PM
>>Does anyone know why Guard (state run) units shouldnt be primarily made up of service/support and transportation type units? And why Reserve (federally run) units shouldnt consist of primarily combat arms type units? << Because the National Guard has politcal clout the Army Reserve can't compete with. And because the Army Reserve saw the way the future was going and positioned itself to be relevant. A great deal of the National Guard (non-enhanced brigade combat arms divisions) are of questionable utility for anything except supporting a Balkans rotation or making people at airports feel secure. I'll happily reiterate the broader question that I think your question ignores -- Why does the US Army (and USAF) maintain two parallel but similar reserve components? Even before you add in the inefficiency of the state National Guard establishments, this system is obviously inefficient. Add in the money-sponge aspect of the National Guard's state-level bureaucracies, and it *screams* inefficiency. Rather than trying to give "choice" units or missions to one reserve component or another, shouldn't the more logical fix be ending the dual system entirely, putting effective active duty oversight into the picture for both RC organizations, and streamlining administrative overhead as much as possible to get more $$$ to units to train, educate their soldiers, upgrade their equipment, etc. But, rather like the USAR getting all the combat arms units, that will never happen, because the ARNG swings way too many votes around.
 
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macawman    RE:Reserves vs Guard Roles?   7/1/2004 11:20:53 PM
Well put, Horsesoldier. We had this discussion some time ago where I thought the National Guard could be fixed. Well I know now I was wrong. Even this war in Iraq has not changed the way NGB and the State TAGs operate. There has been NO major shake up of the Guard structure, no heads have rolled for gross incompetence, Guard troops are being sent over without the means or the survival skills to do their mission and get home healthy. The regular Army seems to know what troop quality they are dealing with and keep these 'Enhanced Bdes' out of 'hot zones'. But it seems that the Iraqi insurgents know a soft target when they see one and have been targeting them on the MSRs and in their poorly defended base camps as indicated by the mortality listing in USA Today.
 
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Thomas    RE:Reserves vs Guard Roles? Horsesoldier   7/2/2004 6:37:34 AM
I might from a Danish Perspective throw some light on Your question: The Danish forces will have the following components: 1. The regular army with full time porfessionals for deployment for overseas duties (might be "overlake" if you dispise the Baltic). 2. The Home Guard that are non-paid volunteers, supplemented with 4 month conscripts. 3. The Royal Guard and the Garderhussars, wich will be conscripted volunteers. These 3 components have totally different backgrounds and are needed to make the army as such work. They can never conspire against the elected authoraties, as they have no common interest (politicians are apprehensious about giving people guns and power - they fear somewhere they might be toppled). The regulars do not have sufficient flat feet to take over, and the Home Guard does not have maneuvre units. The Royal Guard and Garderhussars protect the Majesty (in fact the government) and is close at hand to crush a coup. What has been feared in this country is a military establishment like the Preussian, that was a state within the state.
 
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Siddar    RE:Reserves vs Guard Roles?    7/2/2004 9:00:32 AM
I dont think USNG will change as long as it is under control of the states there is simply no incentive for staes to fix the problems. I think Pentagon needs to take control of Guard and start reforming it they would still be tasked with there normal state functions and non officers would still come from within each state but all its officers would be apointed by pentagon. USNG is a disgrace and could be made into a very efective force if it had a better leadership.
 
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