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Subject: NAVY SEALS VS BRITISH SAS
LJ813    7/1/2005 9:34:17 PM
I WILL GO FOR THE NAVY..
 
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yeter    Reliance   8/30/2009 3:48:02 PM

I just found this forum and saw a post someone had left.I cannot believe that I just read that the Green berets are not on the same level as the SAS and Seals. You obviously have no Idea, do you? First off I just read an article about the Seals being frustrated because they are not getting the missions SF and Delta are getting. The US Army Special Forces are the baddest they come. They do everything and more. They can fight, teach and be diplomats. They have special teams that are scuba and Halo. They have teams that specialize in cqb and direct action missions. Look at Afghanistan. SF and the Airforce pretty much won that war in a few months. Something the Russians couldn't do in 10 years. The Seals are so hyped. Everyone talks about them like they are gods. The reason why SF gets all the good direct action missions is what is talks about the article. Any special ops unit can go blow up, but it takes real skill to go into a country and link up with rebels train them and fight side by side with them. Nobody does it like SF. If the Seals want to get the good missions then stop being chest pounders and start learning the art of unconventional warfare. You watch to much hollywood . Rememeber Delta is a detachment of SF. They just specialize more in CQB and hostage rescue. Most guys come from SF. Sf can do the same. On the same level? Sf is a few levels above SAS and Seals (except Seal Team 6, They compare directly with Delta.) just because SF are quiet doesn't mean thay are not badass. I remember watching a special on Seals and SF in Afghanistan on the military channel on sunday night during special forces night and they had a Seal on and he sais that they can do all of that Unconventional warfare, training host nation stuff, and building bridges etc.. but we want to do Direct action missions. It something alond those lines. He even went on to say that they deserved the right to those missions. Well let me tell you that is why they do not get them. The US government Needs to be able to send mature, well trained fighters to do more than just DA missions. again any of them can do that. They need a unit that can link up with Hmad Karzai amd his men and fight beside them and win a war. Not because they could do DA missions all day but becayse they could get better intel and win hearts and minds. (And also kick ass at DA missions.) Please no what your taliking about before you speak or keep ypur opinions to yourself. The U.S. Army Special forces is not only a special ops unit they are thee premier US Special Ops unit that can do it all and better than anyone else, yes even the all mighty Seals

Thanks for sharing your media ignorance!They would never get missions,that fit,SF or Delta!
 
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bob the brit       8/30/2009 9:11:56 PM

I do love it when people say my countries sf are better than x countries sf and any one who disagrees is a nationalistic fan boy. oh the irony

 

As this thread has been revived are there any prizes for guessing school hols have started.

 

p.s

 

hello bob - havent noticed you on the board for a while
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YOUGOTYOURASSKICKED       9/3/2009 2:17:40 AM
The SEALs are better than the SAS. The SEALs are better than all of them SOF's out there.
But when the going gets tough and the tough get going, me and my airsoft team are the ones that are standing.
All SWIFT operatives go through a year of rigorous mental and physical training. We train with the SEALs and the SAS, and they can't even understand what I'm even saying during the brief.

Everyone just stfu.....
I'm American, therefore I'm proud to say that SEALs are the best in the world, which I truly do believe.
The Aussi that'll come along will say SASR.
The Brits that comes along will say the SAS.
The Russian who comes along will say Spetsnaz.
This thread has really only turned into an entertaining debate.
Quite frankly I'm enjoying it.
But let me quit while I'm ahead.
 
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mole_in_a_hole    amazing   9/3/2009 7:42:29 PM
This is excellent! I didn;t even want to join this forum, but I had to in order to tell you all how retarded it is that there are 37 pages of discussion about an argument none of you can win!!! Your all sad bastards sitting around telling each other you've served in this unit and that unit. None of you are in the SAS or the SEALS. The one thing you all have in common is a stupidly large collection of military reference books which you quote to make you sound manly. Get over yourselves, get girlfriends and stop discussing things you have read about but never witnessed. ...all except the airsoft guy....to you I say keep up the training soldier.
 
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bob the brit       9/3/2009 10:58:27 PM

This is excellent! I didn;t even want to join this forum, but I had to in order to tell you all how retarded it is that there are 37 pages of discussion about an argument none of you can win!!! Your all sad bastards sitting around telling each other you've served in this unit and that unit. None of you are in the SAS or the SEALS. The one thing you all have in common is a stupidly large collection of military reference books which you quote to make you sound manly. Get over yourselves, get girlfriends and stop discussing things you have read about but never witnessed. ...all except the airsoft guy....to you I say keep up the training so
hope this isn't too shocking, but ex-sneakies know how to use computers too. you'd be surprised just how many of 'em crop up in forums from time to time.
 
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smarterthanyou       9/17/2009 2:42:42 AM
im not sure what you mean by the running part affecting them. the SEALS have produced a mass amount of ultraman and triathlon winners like david goggins and paul tharp and a number of less publicized men who for active reasons cant be reported, All the SEALS who run in the quad tearing sand of naval special warfare center coronado are pretty darn good at that aspect of physical fitness. they have to be, and the whole point of their training, their trials and tribulations that cuts out such a high percentage of men (something we can argue about all day but never know for sure) is to show that they can do well at anything no matter what the cost to their body, always putting the benefit and well being of others before themselves and the mission first.
 
 
seals, delta, sas, marine recon, light infantry, basic army, royal navy, the things we dont know about it doesnt matter the simple fact is the free and viable worlds sleep warm in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
 
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gf0012-aust       9/17/2009 6:21:12 AM
the simple fact is the free and viable worlds sleep warm in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

the correct citation is Orwell:
"Men sleep peacefully in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." 


 
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cwDeici       9/18/2009 12:14:01 AM
OK, I've sent in a petition to have Bluewings removed from the forum for aggravated trolling (flames, unsubstantiated statements and outright falsities reducing the quality of the board for subsequent years). Regardless of whether you find him entertaining or not I encourage you to a great degree to join this measure.
 
I was actually starting to see reasonable conversations about the Rafale and other topics on French matters until he reappeared.
 
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cwDeici       9/18/2009 1:12:24 AM
And let's not forget years and years of derailing threads.

 

 
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cwDeici       9/18/2009 4:57:51 AM
Btw., this thread is pretty stupid.
 
 
SEALS = SBS
SAS = Delta/Airborne Rangers/Etc.
 
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