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Subject: Rafale Proves Itself
SYSOP    8/7/2011 7:59:23 AM
 
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heraldabc    Incompetent.   12/19/2011 7:15:55 PM
What is 840 divided by 7? It is 120 sorties. Not only can you NOT read data, you cannot do math.
 
You truly ARE incompetent, Hollow.
 
 
3333 sorties divided  by 6 = 555 hundred sorties in one week (79-120/day)versus 840 in 100 days or about 8.4 per day.
 
I CAN do the math, Larry... er Hollow.

I told you that as long as I was going to be there , BS would not be tolerated . 

 

You have nothing but hot air , nothing but hot air .

Same wrt aerodynamism , you know jack . The Rafale beats the F-16 in all the flight enveloppes you can think of . Its acceleration (the part where drag is very important) is better than the F-16 . I will go as far as posting a stuff from the Eurofighter team :

 


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I could have posted Dassault numbers , they are very similar .

Now , are you trying to tell us that a Nimitz can launch 340 sorties per day ??! And that for a week ??!

You 're a sad clown

 

Cheers .
 
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heraldabc    In the case of the M-88   12/19/2011 7:20:25 PM
Lukewarm air.
 
you don;t have the science or the knowledge, so you try to hide behind insult. I have the knowledge. You've just demonstrated for the tenth time you don't know what you discuss. The only hot air here is YOU. wrong on radar, wrong on jet engines, wrong on persons IDed. When will, you start to be right? NEVER.
 
H.

lol ! Hot air Herald , hot air ...

 

Cheers .

 
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BWisBack       12/19/2011 7:27:09 PM
Herald :
""What is 840 divided by 7? It is 120 sorties. Not only can you NOT read data, you cannot do math. ""
 
Ok , you can 't read english . It is said 2380 sorties not 840 , you sad clown .....
I also like the way your call others incompetent when the only incompetent here is you . For the last 15 pages or so , you didn 't post anything right for cry out loud !
What on Earth the Mods are doing ?..
 
Cheers .
 
 
 
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BWisBack       12/19/2011 7:27:17 PM
Herald :
""What is 840 divided by 7? It is 120 sorties. Not only can you NOT read data, you cannot do math. ""
 
Ok , you can 't read english . It is said 2380 sorties not 840 , you sad clown .....
I also like the way your call others incompetent when the only incompetent here is you . For the last 15 pages or so , you didn 't post anything right for cry out loud !
What on Earth the Mods are doing ?..
 
Cheers .
 
 
 
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45-Shooter    Very perceptive and accurate!   12/19/2011 7:34:28 PM
Because when I speak about the Rafale , I know what I 'm talking about when the others don 't .
 I do not want you to think this is a personal attack! But you do not have a clue about any of the things that I have disputed with you. I know this beyond any doubt because I have actually worked for major aerospace concerns in the areas under discussion. Have you ever worked on any single piece of AVIONIC Equipment? Ever flown in a fast jet? Ever had control of one from the front seat? Ever actually done anything? If you have, please list the exact details to attempt to prove your bonefides . Or keep your mouth shut on topics you have demonstrated beyond any doubt that you are completely ignorant about!
""Personally I think they dropped the Hornet because they don't trust America as a supplier.""
 
Possibly and as Reactive said , the USA can ' t provide a full ToT . But that is only half of the story , the main factor being that the SH failed on technicals. This is BS!
Reacrive :
""and should also hint that no one producing bleeding edge technology unrivalled elsewhere would be willing to distribute it, not for the meagre return of a single export order which pales into insignificance when compared to total program costs and unique domestic industry capabilities. ""
 
First , if the F-35 was "bleeding edge technology" you wouldn 't sell it (see the F-22) .
I guess this depends on your place on the food chaine! F-35 is bleeding edge tech for 213 of this planet's Nations. Note that some Nations had pre-approved invites to this party and some nations can't participate if the wanted to. Which catagory do you think France is in?
 
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heraldabc    LIE.   12/19/2011 7:47:47 PM
Yes I said it, a LIE....
 
 
1350 sorties and 3600 hours were from the carrier Charles de Gaulle, which translates into average of 13 sorties a day for the 18 aircraft embarked with an average flight time of 2hours and 20mins. Of these 840 were strike sorties, 390 Rafale recce, 120 Hawkeye and 240 buddy refuelling sorties. The carrier sailed 40000nm at an average speed of 12kts.

Source: http://lemamouth.blogspot.com/...
 
Now then PREVARICATOR, that is the number I found reported TWICE.
 
You are incompetent and CANNOT either cite truth or do the math. 
 
Do you understand me? In cold SIMPLE English, you have spewed nothing but false statements and misrtepresented yourself again and again.
 
Combined sortirs mixed with carrier only sorties is NOT the truth.
 
H.
 
 
 
 
2380 sorties not 840 , you sad clown .....

I also like the way your call others incompetent when the only incompetent here is you . For the last 15 pages or so , you didn 't post anything right for cry out loud !

What on Earth the Mods are doing ?..

 

Cheers .

 

 
 
 
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BWisBack       12/19/2011 7:47:53 PM
Shooter :
"" I do not want you to think this is a personal attack! But you do not have a clue about any of the things that I have disputed with you. I know this beyond any doubt because I have actually worked for major aerospace concerns in the areas under discussion. Have you ever worked on any single piece of AVIONIC Equipment? Ever flown in a fast jet? Ever had control of one from the front seat? Ever actually done anything? If you have, please list the exact details to attempt to prove your bonefides . Or keep your mouth shut on topics you have demonstrated beyond any doubt that you are completely ignorant about! ""
 
You first , post your CV and I 'll post mine . Wait ... we have a problem . We could say whatever we want , which is exactly what you are doing . Again , this is hot air Shooter and you know it .
First , before to respond to my posts , read them carefully and you would see that I posted credible sources like Indian officials quotes . The US aircraft (and the Mig and the Gripen) lost on technicals .
Just for you , I post it again but this time , read it :
 
""India 's Admiral Arun Prakash (Navy pilot) said :
""Having flown both the F/A-18......... and the Rafale........., I can say that while the former would certainly have met all the IAF requirements competently and economically, the breathtaking performance of the latter leaves one in no doubt that it is a “generation-next” machine. "" .
 
Another Indian source :
""Senior IAF officers, however, emphatically rule out selecting either American fighter says an IAF officer involved in the selection process: “The US companies, which flaunt their technological leadership, are feigning hurt that their fighters were found technologically unsuitable. But it was their misjudgement to offer the IAF fighters like the F-16 and the F-18 that are decades old. It is arrogance to claim that these have been modernised and are good enough for a country like India. ""
Are you also a sad clown like Herald ?  It seems so
Btw Sir , the World is not going around the USA but I am sure that it comes as a surprise to you .
 
Cheers .
 
 
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BWisBack       12/19/2011 7:53:52 PM
Herald , I see that you do a bit of homework and it 's good for everybody including yourself .
You only forgot the 1030 CAP sorties ... 
But you start to do a bit better , carry on
 
Cheers .
 
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heraldabc       12/19/2011 7:57:19 PM
I cited all the sorties correctly FROM THREE SOURCES you incompetent. You CANNOT add.  NOW DO THE MATH.
 
h.

You only forgot the 1030 CAP sorties ... 

But you start to do a bit better , carry on

 

Cheers .

 
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BWisBack       12/19/2011 8:03:00 PM
Herald , find the official source quoting the 2380 sorties in total .
I 'm sure you can .
 
Cheers .
 
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