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Subject: What Is This?
Softwar    11/18/2007 11:12:01 AM
http://maps.google.com/maps?t=h&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=25.033258,118.80734&spn=0.002187,0.003616&z=18&om=1 It appears to be some sort of missile site at the Luocheng PLAAF base but I am not sure what kind. It might be a SAM site for something other than the SA-2 look alike or it might be some sort of land launched cruise missile site.
 
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Softwar       11/18/2007 11:12:47 AM

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Softwar    SA-2 Site at Zhangzhou air base   11/18/2007 11:17:56 AM
The two sites are different - just to compare.

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Yimmy       11/18/2007 12:03:39 PM
I don't know.  You certainly seem to have a better understanding of such imagery than me, however China does also poses numerous other SAM systems, such as S-300 and a Chinese competitor, as well as numerous medium ranged systems.


 
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Softwar       11/18/2007 12:25:25 PM

I don't know.  You certainly seem to have a better understanding of such imagery than me, however China does also poses numerous other SAM systems, such as S-300 and a Chinese competitor, as well as numerous medium ranged systems.




The S-300 (and clones) should not require such an arrangement.  They are similar to Patriot in that the launchers are not placed around a central post.  The mobile batteries contain the missiles.  This site is a fixed position with some sort of loading ramp.  The 360 degree coverage suggests a SAM site but the loading systems scattered with ramps suggests a Silkworm or something similar.
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan       11/18/2007 1:26:54 PM
That's quite a collection at the far end of the runway.

What are the two large green boxes with the tall structures next to them?  One at the center of the circle and one below it?  Some type of radar?

It's not far from the coast of the Taiwan Strait?  Maybe over the horizon radar with defense systems?

Maybe EW gear?

 
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displacedjim       11/18/2007 1:44:58 PM
Just as Yimmy and you suggested it could be, it is an S-300 battalion.  The radar on the ramp in the middle is the FLAP LID.  Unfortunately it has been a few months since I've looked at any imagery, and so I can't remember just what CLAM SHELL looks like from above like this, but I'd guess that's what is on the ramp to the south.  I'd guess if you looked further up the coast at other areas across from Taiwan, or maybe around the Beijing or Shanghai general areas (being perhaps their most important urban areas), you'd probably find more like this--if the Chinese haven't forced Google to blank them out.
 
 
 
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rb_martin       11/18/2007 1:47:56 PM



I don't know.  You certainly seem to have a better understanding of such imagery than me, however China does also poses numerous other SAM systems, such as S-300 and a Chinese competitor, as well as numerous medium ranged systems.





The S-300 (and clones) should not require such an arrangement.  They are similar to Patriot in that the launchers are not placed around a central post.  The mobile batteries contain the missiles.  This site is a fixed position with some sort of loading ramp.  The 360 degree coverage suggests a SAM site but the loading systems scattered with ramps suggests a Silkworm or something similar.
That is interesting. You will also have noticed that there is a similar structure with ramp just off the south edge of the image which is identical to the structure in the center of your image. The pad arrangement doesn't seem right to me for an SSM site though. It would be more appropriate to have all the apds aligned to face Taiwan rather than the 360 degree set up that they are using, wouldn't it?

 
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Yimmy       11/18/2007 1:49:39 PM
I am somewhat awestruck at the availability of such satellite imagery which would have been unthinkable in the Cold War years.

It adds a somewhat interesting element for those with military intent who wouldn't otherwise have such intelligence, such as guerillas.

 
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displacedjim       11/18/2007 1:53:50 PM
I, too, find the AOB at this airbase interesting.  Unless this is a pretty old picture (as in a couple years at least), I think the only reason we'd see 16 x F-6 FARMERs is because they are recent QF-6 drone modifications.
 
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Yimmy       11/18/2007 1:59:35 PM
Perhaps it is a testing and evaluation facility of sorts, trialling the S-300 missile system against drone targets.


 
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