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Subject: CCP strikes again!
tigertony    2/11/2008 5:38:19 PM
Ex-Boeing engineer charged in China spy case By James Vicini Mon Feb 11, 1:49 PM ET WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A former Boeing engineer was arrested on Monday on charges of stealing trade secrets for China related to several aerospace programs, including the Space Shuttle, the U.S. Justice Department said. ADVERTISEMENT It also announced a separate case in which a U.S. Defense Department official and two others were arrested on Monday on espionage charges involving the passing of classified U.S. government documents to China. Department officials said Dongfan "Greg" Chung, 72, of Orange, California, who was employed by Rockwell International from 1973 until its defense and space unit was acquired by Boeing in 1996, was arrested without incident at his residence. He was accused of espionage involving economic secrets, conspiracy and other charges. Chung, a China native who is a naturalized U.S. citizen, held a secret security clearance when he worked at Rockwell and Boeing on the Space Shuttle program, the officials said. He retired from the company in 2002, but the next year he returned to Boeing as a contractor, a position he held until September 2006. According to the charges against him, Chung took and concealed Boeing trade secrets relating to the Space Shuttle, the C-17 military transport aircraft and the Delta IV rocket. A Boeing spokesman, Dan Beck, said his company has been working with investigators. "We do not comment on ongoing government criminal investigations and will not comment on the subject matter of the case," Beck said. "Boeing is not a target of the investigation and has been cooperating with the government." The other case involved Gregg William Bergersen, a Defense Department official, and Tai Shen Kuo and Yu Xin Kang, both of New Orleans. Working under the direction of an individual identified in court documents only as "PRC Official A," Kuo cultivated friendships with Bergersen and others in the U.S. government and obtained from them sensitive classified information for China. The criminal conduct spanned a two-year period from January 2006 to February 2008, the documents said. Kuo, a naturalized U.S. citizen and New Orleans businessman, gathered the information on behalf of China. Bergersen is a weapons systems policy analyst at the Arlington, Va.-based Defense Security Cooperation Agency, which is part of the Defense Department. Now i sometimes wonder if we are not spending our money to defeat the wrong enemy? I mean why kill the puppet and not the puppet master? tigertony
 
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commie    What's the big deal   2/11/2008 6:28:48 PM
You think CIA is not doing the exact same thing in China?
 
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displacedjim       2/11/2008 6:35:38 PM

You think CIA is not doing the exact same thing in China?


Who cares if they are?  That's not the point.  The point is that U.S. citizens are involved in selling out America.

 
 
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Zhang Fei       2/11/2008 7:39:12 PM
commie: You think CIA is not doing the exact same thing in China?

You're right - the CIA is stealing cutting edge technology from the Chinese using white Americans hired by the Chinese defense industry.
 
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commie       2/11/2008 7:57:56 PM

commie: You think CIA is not doing the exact same thing in China?

You're right - the CIA is stealing cutting edge technology from the Chinese using white Americans hired by the Chinese defense industry.

Why couldn't CIA just hire mammonist locals for the job? I remember Caucasians, Indians and Asians were all charged before as Chinese spys, so its not about race and patriotism, MONEY always speak louder.
 
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YelliChink       2/11/2008 8:46:25 PM

You think CIA is not doing the exact same thing in China?


They are not interested in your lame technology. They pay Russians to know what's cooking in PLA.
 
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commie       2/11/2008 9:13:05 PM



You think CIA is not doing the exact same thing in China?



They are not interested in your lame technology. They pay Russians to know what's cooking in PLA.
Like direct-ascent KKV-ASAT? -_-"

 
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YelliChink       2/11/2008 11:53:49 PM

 
Like direct-ascent KKV-ASAT? -_-"


Try land a probe on a comet next time. Or, better, send a probe to trace a comet and collect dust, then come back to earth at exact spot within 1 km. Yes, Americans did all that, and your tech is lame to them.
Americans are shocked by commie ASAT test not by tech surprise, but by stupidity of the commies. They are tracing debris generated by the test, and calculation shows that the debris field will be on the orbit for at least a century. Contrary to USAF ASAT test in 1982, which all the debris came down already as expected, commies are polluting the orbit worse than Russians. Maybe they think it's not enough to screw all Chinese around by polluted air, toxic water and soil depletion, so polluting the space becomes their top priority. Since the test roughtly a year ago, several satellite or various nations already suffered different levels of malfunction. Funny thing is that all of them are from the same orbit level to now destroyed FC-1. Coincidence? I think not. Sooner or later, or even already, commies are going to hit their own toes.
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan       2/12/2008 1:57:54 AM







You think CIA is not doing the exact same thing in China?




They are not interested in your lame technology. They pay Russians to know what's cooking in PLA.


Like direct-ascent KKV-ASAT? -_-"



The Russians had KKV-ASAT a while back.  The Russians don't know what's being stolen from them half of the time.
 
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Softwar       2/12/2008 9:55:26 AM



Like direct-ascent KKV-ASAT? -_-"

As noted by others here - the Russians had a direct-asent ASAT back in the 1970s.  The only reason you had to make a system based on the DF-21 was because the Russians would not allow you to purchase/steal and modify a MiG-31 with an air launched ASAT.
 
Your comment is not an argument but an excuse. 
 
So - the facts remain - the PLA spying effort is the largest espionage operation in the US today - with over 3000 PLA front companies trying to steal, buy or borrow everything that's not nailed down.  The PLA effort in the US is aimed at stealing commercial and military secrets.
 
U.S. espionage efforts aimed at China are intended to monitor ongoing PLA operations - some of which the CMC does not share with the civiliian leadership in Beijing - such as the ASAT launch.  Thus, the CCP is a play thing - a front - for a military dictatorship run by your careless and dangerous warlords.
 
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YelliChink       2/13/2008 2:40:26 PM
The Bergersen case is related to military sale to ROC. Basically, it contains a list of all items sold to Taiwan since 1980s. There is also information about link 16 system that ROC MOD is building. In other words, they did serious harm to ROC, even without any ROC envolvement.
 
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