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Subject: Report: U.S. Soldiers Did 'Dirty Work' for Chinese Interrogators
Softwar    5/21/2008 10:51:55 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4894921&page=1 U.S. military personnel at Guantanamo Bay allegedly softened up detainees at the request of Chinese intelligence officials who had come to the island facility to interrogate the men -- or they allowed the Chinese to dole out the treatment themselves, according to claims in a new government report. Buried in a Department of Justice report released Tuesday are new allegations about a 2002 arrangement between the United States and China, which allowed Chinese intelligence to visit Guantanamo and interrogate Chinese Uighurs held there. According to the report by Justice Department Inspector General Glenn Fine, an FBI agent reported a detainee belonging to China's ethnic Uighur minority and a Uighur translator told him Uighur detainees were kept awake for long periods, deprived of food and forced to endure cold for hours on end, just prior to questioning by Chinese interrogators. Susan Manning, a lawyer who represents several Uighurs still held at Guantanamo, said Tuesday the allegations are all too familiar. U.S. personnel "are engaging in abusive tactics on behalf of the Chinese," she said Tuesday. When Uighur detainees refused to talk to Chinese interrogators in 2002, U.S. military personnel put them in solitary confinement as punishment, she said.
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan       5/21/2008 1:10:16 PM
Worst thing is that the Uyghurs have nothing against the US.  Well, they didn't until now.  I guess our elected officials know who their masters are....


As does our military.

 
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Softwar       5/21/2008 1:26:19 PM
I do know that Osama worked with some of the Ughrs but the level of the relationship has always been questionable - considering that the Taliban relied upon China for a good deal of its armament.  It always appeared that the Taliban and Osama kept the Ughrs at arms length because they had such a good working relationship with Beijing and the PLA warlords.
 
Still, this is the kind of report that makes me sick.  Our co-operation with an intelligence agencies like the MSS or MID should have been in type written form - not hands on.  These are the guys who will make sure your body parts are re-sold at a profit on the open market. 
 
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displacedjim       5/21/2008 2:29:28 PM
Yes, I'm sure they were in Gitmo because they were snatched while on the way to the market to sell their goats....
 
[...rolls eyes...]
 
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Claymore       5/21/2008 4:59:25 PM
There were Kurds who were working with Abu Musab Al-Zarqaqwi in his "Ansar Al-Sunna" group. Ansar Al-Sunna later became known as Al-Queda in Iraq. This did not change the Us governments relationship with Kurdish peoples. We have a very good relationship with them and Kurdistan will be a US ally. Same can be true with East Turkistan and its self determination.

Same is true with this situation, Uyghurs working with AQ in Afghanistan (We did not go into Xinjiang to get them, they were working with AQ/Taliban) will be treated like any other combatants we picked up.

I hope we are not doing this for the Chinese for nothing, something pretty good must be given in exchange, if not then I will be disappointed.

 
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xylene       5/21/2008 5:37:06 PM
Shameful and criminal. GITMO is an abomination.
 
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YelliChink       5/21/2008 5:37:27 PM
This report is so disgusting that I puke diarrhea from my ears.
 
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displacedjim       5/21/2008 6:56:33 PM
Puh-LEEZZE.  What is with you people?  We let the Chinese question some Islamist terrorists?  If there's anything wrong with this picture, it's more likely to be that these wastes of oxygen arrived at Gitmo still breathing than that we let the Chinese commies also try to learn something from them.
 
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan       5/21/2008 7:12:55 PM

Puh-LEEZZE.  What is with you people?  We let the Chinese question some Islamist terrorists?  If there's anything wrong with this picture, it's more likely to be that these wastes of oxygen arrived at Gitmo still breathing than that we let the Chinese commies also try to learn something from them.

 



You are missing the point Jim, the Uyghurs (like the Tibetans) have their homeland outside of Afganistan or Pakistan.  We are talking about different tribes who do not willingly share territory with each other.  The Uyghurs are in Afganistan and Pakistan to train to fight the PLA.  If anything we ought to be encouraging and arming them, not capturing them so that the PLA can interrogate them.

But Bush has already sold this country down the river, so what the hell?   Hey Jim, get your uniform let out a bit so you can bow deeply to PLA generals.
 
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displacedjim       5/22/2008 12:51:52 PM
My response is in the "Sharing our Gitmo Prisoners" thread on the U.S. board.
 
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commie       5/23/2008 4:25:38 AM
The funny thing is Bagram Air base still would had been nuked this March if the referendum in Taiwan blew up.
 
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