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Subject: tough choices for the US
Nanheyangrouchuan    10/21/2014 4:50:16 PM
We should have known this war was coming, now its official. We should back off and let these two sides pummel each other: "http://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/1621190/new-al-qaeda-magazine-calls-xinjiang-be-recovered-islamic-caliphate"
 
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WarNerd       10/22/2014 12:27:46 AM
No choices for the US at all, China is more than up to the task.
 
This pronouncement by al-Qaeda is almost humorous.
 
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CJH       10/25/2014 3:04:08 PM
Wouldn't AQ need access to Sinkiang's border area so it could operate from sanctuaries outside China? Otherwise, would they not be severely limited in what they could accomplish. It's not as it is here where AQ's exploits are amplified by the media to help disrupt normality. Bejing could claim victory regardless of the facts. The grapevine might inform residents of the true matter but the truth would be suppressed leaving one to wonder how effective overall AQ could be.

Can AQ actually gain support of the locals?

 
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CJH       10/25/2014 7:53:23 PM
Wouldn't AQ need access to Sinkiang's border area so it could operate from sanctuaries outside China? Otherwise, would they not be severely limited in what they could accomplish. It's not as it is here where AQ's exploits are amplified by the media to help disrupt normality. Bejing could claim victory regardless of the facts. The grapevine might inform residents of the true matter but the truth would be suppressed leaving one to wonder how effective overall AQ could be.

Can AQ actually gain support of the locals?

 
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CJH       10/25/2014 8:09:07 PM
Reading the article I can't help but wonder why Beijing does not satisfy much of Uighur aspirations by giving the province a certain amount of home rule.

What is Beijing worried about? Would giving the province's people cultural and religious freedoms destabilize the rest of the PRC?

Al Qaeda is an international scope outfit. Its agenda is implicitly hostile to nationalism per se. This seems to be a case of strange bedfellows I guess - a marriage of convenience at best.

To what extent are China's people in general apt to come to identify with the plight of the Uighurs?

 
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WarNerd       10/26/2014 1:30:39 AM
Wouldn't AQ need access to Sinkiang's border area so it could operate from sanctuaries outside China? Otherwise, would they not be severely limited in what they could accomplish. It's not as it is here where AQ's exploits are amplified by the media to help disrupt normality. Bejing could claim victory regardless of the facts. The grapevine might inform residents of the true matter but the truth would be suppressed leaving one to wonder how effective overall AQ could be.
 
Can AQ actually gain support of the locals?
Nothing new.
 
al Qaeda already has access from, and training camps in, Pakistan and possible access via smuggling routes through India.  The Chinese have been threatening Pakistan with dire consequences for years if they don’t do something about it for years.  Pakistan has been giving them the same routine they give the US.
 
We will see what happens.  China has less patience than the US, is not restrained by being reliant on Pakistan for logistics, and have few logistics restrictions to limit their responses.
 
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keffler25       10/26/2014 10:43:46 AM
TERRAIN and WEATHER.
 
From Korea Americans know that the Chinese are TERRIBLE at winter warfare. (Look at how many of them froze to death because they did not know how to shelter or operate in the cold.)
 
I am often criticized because I make an educated guess about a circumstance and someone comes back with the canard about logistics, but if there is one hellhole on Earth that would be a logistics nightmare, it is geographic western China. Almost as bad as the 19th Century American Rocky Mountains. 
 
If there is one place where the AQ bastards can thrive, it is Xingjiang, that is their kind of fertile ground. It contains the two ingredients they need, a bunch of ill educated superstitious psychotics and absolutely horrible terrain for Counter insurgency to snuff them out. Mao was able to make a go of it in China in a similar kind of setup. What he can do... they can do.     

Wouldn't AQ need access to Sinkiang's border area so it could operate from sanctuaries outside China? Otherwise, would they not be severely limited in what they could accomplish. It's not as it is here where AQ's exploits are amplified by the media to help disrupt normality. Bejing could claim victory regardless of the facts. The grapevine might inform residents of the true matter but the truth would be suppressed leaving one to wonder how effective overall AQ could be.

 

Can AQ actually gain support of the locals?



Nothing new.

 

al Qaeda already has access from, and training camps in, Pakistan and possible access via smuggling routes through India.  The Chinese have been threatening Pakistan with dire consequences for years if they don’t do something about it for years.  Pakistan has been giving them the same routine they give the US.

 

We will see what happens.  China has less patience than the US, is not restrained by being reliant on Pakistan for logistics, and have few logistics restrictions to limit their responses.

 
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