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Subject: India vs Great Pakistan
TheOne    10/16/2005 11:18:41 AM
Pakistan--------------------India $2.7 Billion (Yearly Military Expense) $14,018.8 Million 3.9% (% of GNP) 2.4% 17 (Min. Enlist Age) 17 39,793,586 (Available Manpower) 293,677,117 550,000 (Active Military) 1,100,000 400,000 (Frontline Personnel) 800,000 1,012 ( Aircraft) 3,382 3,445 (Armor) 5,112 3,952 (Artillery) 7,169 2,100 (Missile Defense) 7,400 3,025 (Infantry Support) 7,100 And still Pakistan defeated them in 1948, 1965 and Kargil war. I know Indian will start to defend the defeat in above mentioned wars therefore I explain the victory of Pakistan below. 1948 War?Pakistan freed one- third (1/3) Kashmir in 1948 war known as AZAD |KASHMIR which clearly shows that Pakistan won against India. 1965 War?I personally believe that Pakistan won the 1965 war as India invaded war against Pakistan and Pakistan army successfully defend their country. For instant if I accept the Indian claim that 1965 war was a level war, no one win no one lose than I am afraid Pakistan won the war as they fight with 10 time bigger country/army. Kargil War? I can?t stop my laugh when Indians say that they won the Kargil War. Whole world knows that how Pakistan army slaughtered Indian army. Just consider some of the following facts;- Pakistan army was much less in numbers in Kargil war we can explain it in ratio as 1:30 (one man of Pakistan army and 30 men of Indian army) Pakistan didn?t put enough army because they tried to show them as kashmiri mujahidin . Pakistan army only used guns against India (they were not able to use air force, tanks and missile etc as they showed their army as kashmiri mujahidin) and as we all know in response Indian army used air force, tanks, chemical weapon etc and still they can?t beat Pakistan army. Pakistan shot down two of their fighter aircraft and destroyed two weapon stores, number of tanks and countless army members. Might be Indian remember when government decided to celebrate Kargil war anniversary and opposition criticized them by saying ?you want to celebrate your defeate?? Indian should be thankful to their DAD Bil Clinton who saved them otherwise???? You know better? One more thing whenever Pakistan fight against India Pakistan fight on his own but Indian fight with the help of their DAD America and granddad Israel. Indian can only win in propaganda war by the help of their DAD and granddad. please don?t call American and Israel link as natural link because DAD always do favor to son
 
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paulsingh    RE:stupid discussion   10/16/2005 3:45:48 PM
plz go the globalsecurity.org trusted source by many on the net(india and pakistan)unllike ur source which i've never heard of.
 
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IndianRaj    RE:India vs Great Pakistan   10/16/2005 4:35:50 PM
So...if Pakistan is so great, why hasn;t it invaded India and taken over Kashmir yet?
 
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TheOne    RE:India vs Great Pakistan   10/16/2005 7:31:53 PM
<<>> We successfully freed one third of Kashmir in 1948 war and remaining was close to free in Kargil war BUT Mr. Clinton did great favor to India and put pressure on Nawaz Sharif (Pakistani Prime Minister) to call back Pakistan army from Kargil. He followed his (Clinton) command and called Pakistan army back to Kargil, we all Pakistani public and army were not happy to this decision. As consequences Gen Musharf ceased his power and kicked him out from Pakistan. In today¡¦s world its very hard to impose war on any country because UNO can put sanctions¡K¡K but our uncle Mr. Bush can invade war to any country?º) ?º) ?º)
 
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paulsingh    RE:theone   10/16/2005 8:26:54 PM
ur funny one u call USA our uncle while he gives u the only hope to survive. as for kargil goes give me CREDIBAL source that sya pakistan won the war. don't give that pakistani army killed more indian personal sh!t. i want sources. I will give u mine after u have given me urs. if u don't have sources then shut up like everybody other ...........
 
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Jatinderpal    RE:India vs Great Pakistan   10/16/2005 9:59:31 PM
I hope pakistan keeps on winning wars like this. In no time Sind, punjab, baluchistan and NWFP will be dealt with like Bangladesh. Yes let pakistan keep on winning wars like the ones you cite. Soon there will be no pakistan. You know what pakistan means...how to lose wars....
 
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paulsingh    RE:renegade   10/16/2005 10:53:32 PM
renegade u talk a lot and don't provide any good sources. just like a dog who barks for no reason. "lets face it, they only way india knows how to fight is to mass up large number of tanks, men and equipment and rush the enemy in hopes to overwhelm them." oh so u think u pakistanis r better trained than the indians. LOL "a Million dollar tank can be stopped by a 10 dollar explosive" a billion dollar bomb can wipe out a country.
 
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IndianRaj    RE:renegade   10/17/2005 2:02:15 AM
Renegade, can you please explain to me waht happened during the battle of longewala? Where 120 odd Indian Hindu soldiers defeated 3000 Muslim warriors who were bacekd by 60 tanks and hundreds of other vehicles? How come, in the end, no Indian soldiers died, but hundreds of Muslim warriors were killed and over 50 tanks were destroyed? It seems like your "1 Muslim = 10 Hindus" logic backfired... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Longewala
 
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IndianRaj    RE:renegade   10/17/2005 3:45:40 AM
HAHAHAHA, why dont you post a neutral source that says 1000 Indian soldiers died in Kargil? Why don't you go and ask your Northern Light Infantry what happened in Kargil? Oh wait, i forgot, the NLI doesn't exist anymore...since they were cannon fodder for our M2Ks in 1999.
 
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Genesis_ashok    keep going guys   10/17/2005 6:37:55 AM
We must appreciate efforts of TheOone and renegade to uplift the morale of their pathetic self by blabbering rubbish untiringly...both have tremendous talent and imagination to write fairytale and we should welcome them to write stories in bollywood? what wonderful imagination !?Pak won all its wars ! hahaha! Keep going guys?Iam really enjoying ur fictions?.
 
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counterstrike    RE:theone   10/17/2005 11:10:12 AM
>>1948 War?Pakistan freed one- third (1/3) Kashmir in 1948 war known as AZAD |KASHMIR which clearly shows that Pakistan won against India.<< ur such an Idiot it wasn't Pakistan who freed Kashmir, it was India who freed Kashmir. Pakistan was closing near srinagar that was the time when India entered the frame. And it was as a result of the ceasefire u have the one-third of Kashmir >>1965 War?I personally believe that Pakistan won the 1965 war as India invaded war against Pakistan and Pakistan army successfully defend their country. For instant if I accept the Indian claim that 1965 war was a level war, no one win no one lose than I am afraid Pakistan won the war as they fight with 10 time bigger country/army.<< agian u prove that ur an idiot. http://www.dawn.com/2005/08/02/nat4.htm http://www.hindu.com/2005/09/07/stories/2005090707541200.htm http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_7-9-2005_pg3_1 Pakistan charged India of aggression in 1965 when the truth was they were the Ones who where aggressing India. This can be verified clearly by their own air marshal Nur Khan?s statements and the joke is that u guys celebrate it as ur defence day...lol and about the victory http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/encyclopedia/i/in/indo-pakistani_war_of_19651.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Pakistani_War_of_1965 it clearly tells though it was a stalemate in millitary terms it was an indian victory otherwise. >>Kargil War? I can?t stop my laugh when Indians say that they won the Kargil War. Whole world knows that how Pakistan army slaughtered Indian army. Just consider some of the following facts;- Pakistan army was much less in numbers in Kargil war we can explain it in ratio as 1:30 (one man of Pakistan army and 30 men of Indian army) Pakistan didn?t put enough army because they tried to show them as kashmiri mujahidin . Pakistan army only used guns against India (they were not able to use air force, tanks and missile etc as they showed their army as kashmiri mujahidin) and as we all know in response Indian army used air force, tanks, chemical weapon etc and still they can?t beat Pakistan army. Pakistan shot down two of their fighter aircraft and destroyed two weapon stores, number of tanks and countless army members. Might be Indian remember when government decided to celebrate Kargil war anniversary and opposition criticized them by saying ?you want to celebrate your defeate?? Indian should be thankful to their DAD Bil Clinton who saved them otherwise???? You know better?<< go to http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/encyclopedia/k/ka/kargil_war.htm u will know who won it. >>number of tanks and countless army members.<< and when where tanks used in kargil & how will u destroy tanks with guns idiot. and keep counting I know ur week in maths.
 
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