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Subject: Kargil war. A thorough analysis.
coolboyjay    10/26/2005 1:03:41 AM
http://www.ccc.nps.navy.mil/research/kargil/war_in_kargil.pdf I have come across many pakis saying that the kargil war was over due to US pressure. I think this report, from a BLOODY neutral source should shut them up forever.. Also, this should confirm the bravery of the Indian army. Unfortunately, I am not gonna post the whole thing here.. If u guys wanna read the whole story.. plz download the PDF file. ---------------------------- The Intruders The Intruders on the heights were an amalgam of professional soldiers and mercenaries. They included the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th and 12th battalions of the Pakistan Army?s Northern Light Infantry (NLI). Among them were many Mujaheddin and members of Pakistan's the Special Services Group (SSG). It was initially estimated that there were about 500 to 1,000 intruders occupying the heights but later it is estimated that the actual strength of the intruders may have been about 5,000. The area of intrusion extended in an area of 160km. The Pakistani Army had set up a complex logistical network through which the intruders across the LOC would be well supplied from the bases in POK (Pakistan Occupied Kashmir). The intruders were also well armed with AK 47 and 56, mortars, artillery, anti aircraft guns, and Stinger missiles. Operation Vijay The Indian Army detected the intrusions between May 3-12. From May 15 - 25, 1999, military operations were planned, troops moved to their attack locations, artillery and other equipment were moved in and the necessary equipment was purchased. Indian Army?s offensive named Operation Vijay was launched on May 26, 1999. Indian troops moved towards Pakistani occupied positions with air cover provided by aircraft and helicopters. Batalik Sector This sector is located between the Shyok and Indus rivers. This sector was responsible for about half of the Indian casualties. The Battle for Chorbat La, Turtuk & Eastern section The Eastern section of the Batalik sector consists of Chorbat La (mountain pass), Turturk and Pt 5287. The Ladakh Scouts captured the ridge of Chorbat La on the Indian side and preempted the Pakistani forces from occupying the area. This was the first Indian victory in the sector and resulted in heavy Pakistani losses. Turtuk is an important peak and the location of several important villages in the valley as well a link to Siachen Glacier. This sector was recaptured on June 16,1999 by 11 Rajputana Rifles. Pt 5287 was recaptured on July 5th by the Ladakh Scouts. The Eastern section was recaptured on July 6th after 38 days of war. Jubar Ridge Jubar Ridge is located on the western end of the sector and is several km from the LOC. Initial patrols to this area were killed by the inturders. The first attack on the ridge was unsucessful. In the next attacks, the Indian Army decided to cut supply routes and encircle the enemy camps. Jubar Ridge and the neighboring peaks were the site of some of the fiercest battles during the conflict. The battle raged for 40 days ending on July 8,1999, involved hand to hand combat and heavy casualties. Eventually, 1 Bihar of the Indian Army prevailed over the enemy forces. Central Section The Central Section of Batalik Sector consists of Munthu Dhalo, Kokarthang and Pt 5285. Intial attacks in this area were unsuccesful. 1 Paras and 11 Gorkha Rifles pressed on and were able to take back all of the peaks in the region. Dras Sector This sector is the Western most of the inturders positions. Dras Sector is adjacent to the Srinagar - Leh Highway (NH 1), making this sector strategically important as traffic on the highway was vulnerable to the enemy firing. The main positions of the intuders were the Tololing Top, Tiger Hill, Pt 4875, Pt 4590, Pt 5100 and Pt 5140. Tololing Tololing Peak was the dominant position in the sector as it directly overlooked the highway. The Battle of Tololing was intially carried out by 18 grenadiers on May 22, 1999 and was unsucessful. Subsequently, 1 Naga Regiment, 15Garhwal and the Grenadiers took up the task but also failed to beat back the intruders. Eventually 2 Rajput, a fresh battalion, was given the task of capturing the peak. 2 Rajput prevailed on the June 13, 1999. The same battalion was sucessful in capturing Pt 4590 on June 14, 1999. Pt 5410 located east of Tololing and closer to the LOC was captured by 1 Naga Regiment. Pt 5100, located close to the LOC was a major supply route for enemy forces. The capture of this on July 1, 1999 was instrumental in the recapture of Tiger Hill. Tiger Hill Tiger Hill is also a major peak located along the highway. Initial attempts by 8 Sikh were unsucessful. Tiger Hill is also the location of the the downing of the Mi-17 helicopter in early days of the Kargil War. Eventually Tiger Hill fell due to a combined attack from three sides which resulted in the cutting of supply lines of the intruders. Tiger Hill was recaptured on July 3, 1999 and cleared on July 9, 1999.Pt 4875, the third o
 
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coolboyjay    RE:Kargil war. A thorough analysis. some more   10/26/2005 2:04:04 AM
Well, I could not refrain from posting some more. Kya karun control nahi hota.. -------- Diplomacy Both sides tried to build up a world consensus for their side. Pakistan issued statements condemning India's counter attack and falsely claiming that the fighters were the mujaheddin and or Kashmiri freedom fighters. Pakistan also falsely claimed that the Line of Control separating the two sides was not clearly defined. This was false as the line of control was clearly delineated by the two sides in 1972. Pakistan tried to use kargil as a way to project the Kashmir conflict as a potential nuclear showdown thereby encouraging international intervention that might favor Pakistan. Similarly, Pakistani leaders visited China, an ardent ally, to shore up support for their cause and simulataneously pressure India. However much of Pakistan's diplomatic overtures failed, despite early sucess. The world saw proof of Pakistani army involvement in Kargil. India likewise tried to use the international media to make its case known. India was sucessful in showing the world that the Line of Control was clearly delineated and both sides possesed copies of the maps. Second, India demonstrated that the Kargil conflict was orchestrated and executed by the Pakistani army working with the Mujaheddin. Indian restraint and limitation to restrict the operations to Kashmir, allayed fears that the conflict would spiral out of control and result in nuclear war. It sucessfully thwarted Pakistani attempts at "nuclear" blackmail. The ultimate triumph of diplomacy occured as PakistaniPrime Minister Nawaz Sharif travelled to Washington D.C in early July to negotiate a settlement of the conflict. At this time, defeat of the Pakistani occupying forces seemed assured as Indian armed forces had taken back almost all of the peaks in their respective sectors. The only remaining occupied peaks were the ones closest to the Line of Control, where Pakistani artillery fire could provide cover to the invaders. In a negotiated settlement, Pakistan decided to withdraw its troops from the remaining locations in a set time frame. Conclusion & Lessons from Kargil The most valuable lesson from the Kargil war for India was that Pakistan despite attempts at peace would not end the use of its military option in Kashmir. Pakistan had since the late 1980's been using an indirect military option against India by backing terrorists under the disguise of "freedom fighters". Kargil a more direct military option was used to bolster the morale of its forces, achieve political and tactical gains. However after the initial shock, the operation for Pakistan was a failure. It failed to acheive the desired politcal gains, as Pakistan stood isolated within the international community, it failed in its tactical objective, as any gained territory was lost. The morale of its forces despite and early euphoria was badly damaged as many units of the NLI were destroyed and many of the dead were never brought home and worse still not acknowledged. India also learned another valuable lesson, that its military needed more funds and equipment to maintain a state of readiness against a cunning enemy. India also realized that its intelligence organizations needed to be better organized so that information and evidence would reach the proper authorities. Another important lesson was the the Indian military and intelligence systen also needed a system of accountability for its failures.
 
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coolboyjay    RE:Kargil war. A thorough analysis.   10/26/2005 4:52:19 AM
I bet that the pakis would not have anything to say on this.. Dumb as ever huh??
 
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coolboyjay    RE:Kargil war. A thorough analysis.   10/27/2005 11:35:47 PM
just to remind a paki idiot.. that we did not lose the war..
 
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atatangent       10/3/2012 8:49:25 AM
I wonder why could India not adopt a more passive approach by cutting supply lines of intruders with the help of Artillery and Air-power. Winter would have set in within four months and it would have been very difficult for the intruders to sustain themselves and they would have had no option but to surrender. That National Highway No. 1 was under their artillery fire range and to free the same, urgent action had to be taken is one argument in favor of active intervention, but does not wash. The Srinagar highway could have been shut down for six months, using transport airplanes for ferrying all the civilian & military supplies to J&K. Any one?
 
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atatangent    what was the hurry?   12/2/2012 3:09:39 PM
I wonder why could India not adopt a more passive approach by cutting supply lines of intruders with the help of Artillery and Air-power. Winter would have set in within four months and it would have been very difficult for the intruders to sustain themselves and they would have had no option but to surrender. That National Highway No. 1 was under their artillery fire range and to free the same, urgent action had to be taken is one argument in favor of active intervention, but does not wash. The Srinagar highway could have been shut down for six months, using transport airplanes for ferrying all the civilian & military supplies to J&K. 
 
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Pakistan_Zindabad       12/27/2012 10:37:17 AM
you are a asshole coolboyjai. The Pakstani part of kashmir is called AZAAD KASHMIR. You bullshit Indians always sai that india is stronger etc. But how is that possible that u could not takeover kashmir from us. The happening in kargil, mumbai, kashmir??? you people are always saying that u have good hearts thats why u dont make a war against us. The truth is that you are Scared. you knows very well that a war against pakistan will be a nuclear war. Since we both countries are nuclear powers there is no way for war. Both countries will be destroyd Nobody will win. Both will loose. And dont forget that u motherfuckers are 1.2 BILLION people. obviously indians will die more than pakistanis. By the way kargil was started by mujahideen who were supported by the great Pakfauj. They were about 5000 pro pakistan units and more than 30.000 indian soldiers. I There was no way to take back tiger hill and other points by indian army. You had so big losses. I am not saying that it was good im just telling you the truth. In the end by US pressure we had to take back our units, not because you could take back those places with your forces. So please do me a favour and think at first before u r talking such a bullshit. In the end Pakfauj Zindabad, Pakistan Baindabad!.
 
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