And now its to keep the PLA behaved and watch, and snip the "string of pearls" if necessary.

i am quite confused that musloko-maro said in his post that "India just before, and just after Independence did not capitalize on the greatest golden opportunity to take Tibet/Brahmaputra/Manasarovar, etc., from China. " it seems he is quite regretful that india failed to take the chance to SEPARATE and TAKE OVER tibet from china. it is a very dangerous idea. actually india did make efforts to do it then. but the efforts proved to be not enough. however, at least it shows a fact that tibet was then and is now part of china (actually for 700 years). tibet was never an independent country. this also proves that "china's invasion of an independent tibet" is totally a nonsense. it is very paradoxical that india, marking herself as a peaceloving country, made every effort to achieve independence and get rid of the ruling from the british, while at the other hand tried to separate other countries in order to protect the interests which the british was attempted to gain through ignominious means.

"however, at least it shows a fact that tibet was then and is now part of china (actually for 700 years). tibet was never an independent country. this also proves that "china's invasion of an independent tibet" is totally a nonsense." Tibet was a much larger country during and before the Tang dynasty. Much in interior china actually belongs to Tibet, now give it back you thieves. Bad, bad, china

"Tibet was a much larger country during and before the Tang dynasty. " you are quite right on this. but please pay attention to the context of my post. the discussion focused on the incident happened in the middle of last century. perhaps i should say "tibet was never an independent country then" for your full understanding. no independence, no invasion. it's just that simple.

Tibet was fully independant nation prior to MAO and his hordes. If it was not that, Mao and his communist scum would have invaded in 1949 itself and not in 1959. THere is big difference in CCP speak and THE TRUTH, LUCKYBIRD!!! May be you are not as lucky about THE TRUTH than you are about propoganda. Regarding the CHinese invasion of INdia, if the CHINESE thought that the captured territory is INdian, why the hell they gave it back and went back to the pre 62 border. This clash was nothing but to put down Nehru in the eyes of the world by Mao and it succeded in doing that. It also brought out the severe short comings in the Indian army vis-a-vis equipment and leadership standards. THe Jawans on more than one occasion proved their mettle in this clash, but unfortunately the senior commanders most of them political appointees let them down. THe situation is VASTLY DIFFERENT TODay, militarily and politically!!!

"you are quite right on this. but please pay attention to the context of my post. the discussion focused on the incident happened in the middle of last century. perhaps i should say "tibet was never an independent country then" for your full understanding. no independence, no invasion. it's just that simple. " Tibet was independent at that time and up until Dirty Mao's conquest. Tibetan monks served as imperial advisors and in return received military protection against Turkish muslims from the west. Still independence, still dirty, evil CCP.

"Tibet was fully independant nation prior to MAO and his hordes." i have to remind you of the fact that tibet was not an independent country even before 1949. it had not claimed independence and no countries in the world recognised its independence at that time. another fact is china librated tibet peacefully as early as in 1950. the 1959 military action was against the rebellions. "THere is big difference in CCP speak and THE TRUTH, LUCKYBIRD!!! May be you are not as lucky about THE TRUTH than you are about propoganda." i don't rely my judgement on a single source. and the problem you pointed on me may exist the same way on yourself. "Regarding the CHinese invasion of INdia, if the CHINESE thought that the captured territory is INdian, why the hell they gave it back and went back to the pre 62 border." the truth is india's "forward policy" and refusal to discuss the border issue led to china's fight back. as i pointed before, the war started in china's territory. so it is obvious that india started the provocation by pushing its posts far across the mcmahon line. it is not reasonable if china did not fight back under this situation. but at that time china was facing a lot of civil problems and china was unwilling to make enemy with india. so one of the main objectives of the border war was set to teach the indian intruders a good lesson and to push the indians back to the negotiation table. after the second victory over the indian army, china, instead of seizing the land it had occupied, retreated to undisputed area to show its sincerity since china believed that the undetermined border issue could be settled through negotiation. but history proved that china was wrong since india continued to refuse negotiation and move into the disputed area after the war. if you read more history you will find that Tawang, located in the current state of Arunachal Pradesh of india which claimed by china as its territory, was the place of born of the 6th Dalai Lama of tibet, who was never an indian. and based on the fact that the border between the two countries had never been officially delimited, the actual line of control of china and india before india's independence was far south of mcmahon line. if you could find an official map of india printed before 1950, you will find its difference with your current map. it is quite ridiculous that india insisted on the ignominious mcmahon line, which was never recognised by any chinese goverment, as their determined border and refused to negotiate. this line, drawn randomly by mcmahon on the map, was originally used as an intrigue for the british to separate and gradually invade tibet. however, india took the line as its precious, ignoring its invalidity. "mcmahon line was never demarcated, i.e., marked out on the ground and agreed by both parties", but indians were unilaterally modifying the location and direction of the line on the map without negotiation even the acknowledgement of the chinese just because they felt it should be like that to their own interests. how can you expect the border disputes can be settled under this kind of irresponsibility? this is the truth that i have got. and i have to correct you that after the border war, china retreated to the pre 59 not pre 62 border. and as i know, for decades, chinese never crossed over the mcmahon line into the disputed area except during the border war. did indians do the same thing?

U live in fools paradise if you keep on quoting Maxwells report. Unlike CCP stooges, most folks here see the truth. It is obvious u DONT. PEacefully!!!! MAO and CCP dont know the meaning of that word!!!! SHAME ON THEM AND THEIR APOLOGISTS.

"U live in fools paradise if you keep on quoting Maxwells report. " i didn't see anything wrong with maxwell's report. if you find anything wrong, point it out with your proof. but i found he cited a lot of precious indian official documents that could prove his arguments. so the truth is you don't want to believe the truth since it did not satisfy you.

"""if you read more history you will find that Tawang, located in the current state of Arunachal Pradesh of india which claimed by china as its territory, was the place of born of the 6th Dalai Lama of tibet, who was never an indian.""" That is cool man. Dalai lama is still TIBETIAN, and not CHINESE.... ""it is quite ridiculous that india insisted on the ignominious mcmahon line, which was never recognised by any chinese goverment, as their determined border and refused to negotiate. this line, drawn randomly by mcmahon on the map, was originally used as an intrigue for the british to separate and gradually invade tibet."" Again TIBET Was an independent nation, so the BRITISH were negotiating with TIBETIANS and not CHINESE. CHinese terrotory was beyond Tibet's border. Chinese crossed the border period and when the world screamed they went back shamelessly claiming to be peaceloving DOVES!! India probably than any other nation did more to get Communist china into the WORLD community of nations. It was a PARIAH state after 49. But see how they replied stabbing India in the bACK with PLA soldiers screaming "" HINDI-CHINI bhai bhai"" while at the same time invading INdian terrotory. Chinese have no right to be in TIBET. THey invaded and are occupying that nation. SO there is no question of any chinaindia border in Arunachal pradesh. God help folks like you!! coz certainly man cannot. U twist history to suit ur own purposes.!!! and then claim that CCP is peace loving. How IRONIC