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Subject: World's top 10 Superpowers, 20 Years from Today
Borgia     9/2/2006 5:32:05 AM
Surprise, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia Yes two great Muslim Nations will be competing for the number one spot, twenty years from now? 20 years ago, the United States and Soviet Union were Cold War adversaries. Nobody expected that in five years from then, the Berlin Wall would fall and the Soviet Union would implode. Here is an assessment of the top 10 World Powers. 10. Brazil This country is emerging as the dominant military and economic force in Latin America. It operates the only aircraft carrier outside the US Navy in the Western Hemisphere. Currently, Brazil is trying to build up its forces still more, and is pursuing a program to build a nuclear-powered attack submarine and could be pursuing nuclear weapons development as well. 9. South Korea This country has an indigenous naval program that is quite solid, and one of the better armies in the world. The only thing holding it back is a reliance on foreign designs for aircraft, although it is manufacturing F-16s locally. 8. Germany Despite reductions in the German defense budget after the end of the Cold War, this military has several quality systems (like the Leopard 2 main battle tank and the Type 212 submarine). Germany also has had a tradition of effective military forces (just ask the Romans). 7. Japan This is a country which has, with one hand tied behind its back, developed the number two navy in the Pacific Rim, and arguably the second-best air force (tied with China). The only thing that holds Japan back is an apparent lack of desire. Things could rapidly change on that front, though. 6. Russia This country has a lot of nukes, and a lot of bombers. While naval designs (like the Kirov-class battlecruisers and Oscar-class submarines) are good on paper, they still have quality issues, and accidents are not unheard of. Still, this is a country that has some advantages, and is no pushover. 5. France Probably in better shape than what one would expect. This is largely because of the quality of the troops (due to career NCOs). Has remained self-sufficient in terms of producing major weapons systems (see the Rafale), and operates the only CVN outside the U.S. Navy (even though it has had problems). 4. China This is a force that has quantity on its side, and is rapidly trying to improve its quality. Their air force will probably have the largest force of Su-27 fighters in the world (at least 580, compared to the 550 in Russian service). The Chinese navy is rapidly introducing new classed of destroyers and frigates that are close to the quality of American and Japanese surface combatants. That said, it is still behind, and the Chinese financial situation could go downhill rapidly. 3. US While it has been historically a superpower, because of its lax morals where women dress sexy, shave their legs and dress scantily to tempt men, reeks of promiscuity. In fact 58.8 % of the unmarried women aged 18 have lost their virginity. This will create a mass exodus in the population to adopt Islam as the religion of choice because Islamic women are not sexy, don?t shave facial hair or the hair on their legs and have sex only after they are married to make babies. Therefore the morals of Islam and Islamic Sharia laws will become dominant. But in the meanwhile this turmoil will be a potent threat to internal stability. Inspite of this, the US has adequate military forces that not only has a tradition of high quality, but can operate half a world away and still accomplish impossible and difficult missions. Sailor for sailor, with the exception of the Pakistani Navy, there is no better navy than the U.S. Navy. 2. Saudi Arabia ? Probably the most dynamic country in terms of the leaps. Saudi Arabia, supported by its oil dollars is rapidly becoming self-sufficient in a number of areas, and what it cannot produce, it is able to buy. It also has some of the best educational systems and training in the world, and can give an unsuspecting opponent a surprise. Probably the next superpower due to a more firm economic footing, and the fact that its Navy is much more advanced than even China?s. Besides oil the Saudi Arabians have a world wide monopoly on software engineering which is critical in establishing stochastic models for guided missile systems to have near pin point strike capability. 1. Pakistan ? Even while fighting a war on terrorism, Pakistan is pursuing new technology (such as UCAVs) to maintain an edge over any potential challenger. The forces are well-trained, and the Pakistani Navy is still the most powerful in the world. Pakistan has the biggest and strongest army, navy and air force the world has ever seen. The term superpower greatly understates what the Islamic Republic of Pakistan can do. It is most definitely a hyper-superpower.
 
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pulkit_patriot       12/27/2006 3:36:08 AM

Surprise, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia Yes two great Muslim Nations will be competing for the number one spot, twenty years from now? 20 years ago, the United States and Soviet Union
were Cold War adversaries. Nobody expected that in five years from then, the Berlin Wall would fall and the Soviet Union would implode. Here is an assessment of the top 10 World Powers.

10. Brazil
This country is emerging as the dominant military and economic force in Latin America. It operates the only aircraft carrier outside the US Navy in the Western Hemisphere. Currently, Brazil is trying to build up its forces still more, and is pursuing a program to build a nuclear-powered attack submarine and could be pursuing nuclear weapons development as well.

9. South Korea
This country has an indigenous naval program that is quite solid, and one of the better armies in the world. The only thing holding it back is a reliance on foreign designs for aircraft, although it is manufacturing F-16s locally.

8. Germany
Despite reductions in the German defense budget after the end of the Cold War, this military has several quality systems (like
the Leopard 2 main battle tank and the Type 212 submarine). Germany also has had a tradition of effective military forces (just ask the Romans).

7. Japan
This is a country which has, with one hand tied behind its back, developed the number two navy in the Pacific Rim, and arguably the second-best air force (tied with China). The only thing that holds Japan back is an apparent lack of desire. Things could rapidly change on that front, though.

6. Russia
This country has a lot of nukes, and a lot of bombers. While naval designs (like the Kirov-class battlecruisers and Oscar-class submarines) are good on paper, they still have quality issues, and accidents are not unheard of. Still, this is a country that has some advantages, and is no pushover.

5. France
Probably in better shape than what one would expect. This is largely because of the quality of the troops (due to career NCOs). Has remained self-sufficient in terms of producing major weapons systems (see the Rafale), and operates the only CVN outside the U.S. Navy (even though it has had problems).

4. China
This is a force that has quantity on its side, and is rapidly trying to improve its quality. Their air force will probably have the largest force of Su-27 fighters in the world (at least 580, compared to the 550 in Russian service). The Chinese navy is rapidly introducing new classed of destroyers and frigates that are close to the quality of American and Japanese surface combatants. That said, it is still behind, and the Chinese financial situation could go downhill
rapidly.

3. US
While it has been historically a superpower, because of its lax morals where women dress sexy, shave their legs and dress scantily to tempt men, reeks of promiscuity. In fact 58.8 % of the unmarried women aged 18 have lost their virginity. This will create a mass exodus in the population to adopt Islam as the religion of choice because Islamic women are not sexy, don’t shave facial hair or the hair on their legs and have sex only after they are married to make babies. Therefore the morals of Islam and Islamic Sharia laws will become dominant. But in the meanwhile this turmoil will be a potent threat to internal stability. Inspite of this, the US has adequate military forces that not only has a tradition of high quality, but can operate half a world away and still accomplish impossible and difficult missions. Sailor for sailor, with the exception of the Pakistani Navy, there is no better navy than the U.S. Navy.

2. Saudi Arabia – Probably the most dynamic country in terms of the leaps. Saudi Arabia, supported by its oil dollars is rapidly becoming self-sufficient in a number of areas, and what it cannot produce, it is able to buy. It also has some of the best educational systems and training in the world, and can give an unsuspecting opponent a surprise. Probably the next superpower due to a more firm economic footing, and the fact that its Navy is much more advanced than even China’s. Besides oil the Saudi Arabians have a world wide monopoly on software engineering which is critical in establishing stochastic models for guided missile systems to have near pin point strike capability.

1. Pakistan – Even while fighting a war on terrorism, Pakistan is pursuing new technology (such as UCAVs) to maintain an edge over any potential challenger. The forces are well-trained, and the Pakistani Navy is still the most powerful in the world. Pakistan has the biggest and strongest army, navy and air force the world has ever seen. The term superpower greatly understates what the Islamic Republic of Pak
 
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pulkit_patriot       12/27/2006 3:36:32 AM

Surprise, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia Yes two great Muslim Nations will be competing for the number one spot, twenty years from now? 20 years ago, the United States and Soviet Union
were Cold War adversaries. Nobody expected that in five years from then, the Berlin Wall would fall and the Soviet Union would implode. Here is an assessment of the top 10 World Powers.

10. Brazil
This country is emerging as the dominant military and economic force in Latin America. It operates the only aircraft carrier outside the US Navy in the Western Hemisphere. Currently, Brazil is trying to build up its forces still more, and is pursuing a program to build a nuclear-powered attack submarine and could be pursuing nuclear weapons development as well.

9. South Korea
This country has an indigenous naval program that is quite solid, and one of the better armies in the world. The only thing holding it back is a reliance on foreign designs for aircraft, although it is manufacturing F-16s locally.

8. Germany
Despite reductions in the German defense budget after the end of the Cold War, this military has several quality systems (like
the Leopard 2 main battle tank and the Type 212 submarine). Germany also has had a tradition of effective military forces (just ask the Romans).

7. Japan
This is a country which has, with one hand tied behind its back, developed the number two navy in the Pacific Rim, and arguably the second-best air force (tied with China). The only thing that holds Japan back is an apparent lack of desire. Things could rapidly change on that front, though.

6. Russia
This country has a lot of nukes, and a lot of bombers. While naval designs (like the Kirov-class battlecruisers and Oscar-class submarines) are good on paper, they still have quality issues, and accidents are not unheard of. Still, this is a country that has some advantages, and is no pushover.

5. France
Probably in better shape than what one would expect. This is largely because of the quality of the troops (due to career NCOs). Has remained self-sufficient in terms of producing major weapons systems (see the Rafale), and operates the only CVN outside the U.S. Navy (even though it has had problems).

4. China
This is a force that has quantity on its side, and is rapidly trying to improve its quality. Their air force will probably have the largest force of Su-27 fighters in the world (at least 580, compared to the 550 in Russian service). The Chinese navy is rapidly introducing new classed of destroyers and frigates that are close to the quality of American and Japanese surface combatants. That said, it is still behind, and the Chinese financial situation could go downhill
rapidly.

3. US
While it has been historically a superpower, because of its lax morals where women dress sexy, shave their legs and dress scantily to tempt men, reeks of promiscuity. In fact 58.8 % of the unmarried women aged 18 have lost their virginity. This will create a mass exodus in the population to adopt Islam as the religion of choice because Islamic women are not sexy, don’t shave facial hair or the hair on their legs and have sex only after they are married to make babies. Therefore the morals of Islam and Islamic Sharia laws will become dominant. But in the meanwhile this turmoil will be a potent threat to internal stability. Inspite of this, the US has adequate military forces that not only has a tradition of high quality, but can operate half a world away and still accomplish impossible and difficult missions. Sailor for sailor, with the exception of the Pakistani Navy, there is no better navy than the U.S. Navy.

2. Saudi Arabia – Probably the most dynamic country in terms of the leaps. Saudi Arabia, supported by its oil dollars is rapidly becoming self-sufficient in a number of areas, and what it cannot produce, it is able to buy. It also has some of the best educational systems and training in the world, and can give an unsuspecting opponent a surprise. Probably the next superpower due to a more firm economic footing, and the fact that its Navy is much more advanced than even China’s. Besides oil the Saudi Arabians have a world wide monopoly on software engineering which is critical in establishing stochastic models for guided missile systems to have near pin point strike capability.

1. Pakistan – Even while fighting a war on terrorism, Pakistan is pursuing new technology (such as UCAVs) to maintain an edge over any potential challenger. The forces are well-trained, and the Pakistani Navy is still the most powerful in the world. Pakistan has the biggest and strongest army, navy and air force the world has ever seen. The term superpower greatly understates what the Islamic Republic of Pak
 
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Jawan    What a load of BALONEY   12/28/2006 12:00:06 AM
 BORGIA,

What r you high on dude!!!. UR post indicates you are on awesomely strong, out of this world, stuff (DRUGS for your warped mind) from your neighborhodd (read Afghanistan).

LOL, nice load of CRAP!!!! coming from a fella whose country and its armed forced have gotten whacked utterly in the last 60 years and LOST OF ITS LAND!!!!

PITY U, man. Get back to this world!! :))

 
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Ezekiel       1/11/2007 7:51:13 AM
HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHA!!!!!!
That is by far one of the funniest posts I have read on this site.... Thank you for the laugh Borgia.
pakistan and saudia arabia will be if anything failed state with Islamo fascists running them into oblivion.
 
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Red Shirt    Borgia's post : World's top 10 Superpowers, 20 Years from Today   1/12/2007 12:07:48 PM

Pakistan doesn't need 20 years. It requires less than that to disappear from the worlmap, unless its peole wake up now & take corect corrective actions.
 
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Herald1234    Galloping insanity.   1/12/2007 12:35:30 PM

Surprise, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia Yes two great Muslim Nations will be competing for the number one spot, twenty years from now? 20 years ago, the United States and Soviet Union
were Cold War adversaries. Nobody expected that in five years from then, the Berlin Wall would fall and the Soviet Union would implode. Here is an assessment of the top 10 World Powers.
Check the resource base.
10. Brazil
This country is emerging as the dominant military and economic force in Latin America. It operates the only aircraft carrier outside the US Navy in the Western Hemisphere. Currently, Brazil is trying to build up its forces still more, and is pursuing a program to build a nuclear-powered attack submarine and could be pursuing nuclear weapons development as well.
Unrealized potential for two hundred years.
9. South Korea
This country has an indigenous naval program that is quite solid, and one of the better armies in the world. The only thing holding it back is a reliance on foreign designs for aircraft, although it is manufacturing F-16s locally.
DPRK albotross.
8. Germany
Despite reductions in the German defense budget after the end of the Cold War, this military has several quality systems (like
the Leopard 2 main battle tank and the Type 212 submarine). Germany also has had a tradition of effective military forces (just ask the Romans).
Warguilt albatross.
7. Japan
This is a country which has, with one hand tied behind its back, developed the number two navy in the Pacific Rim, and arguably the second-best air force (tied with China). The only thing that holds Japan back is an apparent lack of desire. Things could rapidly change on that front, though.
Japan is the number two nation on the planet at the moment, probably number one technologically. 
6. Russia
This country has a lot of nukes, and a lot of bombers. While naval designs (like the Kirov-class battlecruisers and Oscar-class submarines) are good on paper, they still have quality issues, and accidents are not unheard of. Still, this is a country that has some advantages, and is no pushover.
Russia has Putin. That will set it back at least half a century.
5. France
Probably in better shape than what one would expect. This is largely because of the quality of the troops (due to career NCOs). Has remained self-sufficient in terms of producing major weapons systems (see the Rafale), and operates the only CVN outside the U.S. Navy (even though it has had problems).
France will undergo internal reform. What emerges no-one can say with certainty. 
4. China
This is a force that has quantity on its side, and is rapidly trying to improve its quality. Their air force will probably have the largest force of Su-27 fighters in the world (at least 580, compared to the 550 in Russian service). The Chinese navy is rapidly introducing new classed of destroyers and frigates that are close to the quality of American and Japanese surface combatants. That said, it is still behind, and the Chinese financial situation could go downhill
rapidly.
China is headed for internal revolution and possible dissolution if it does not reform. Its economic peak will occur at about 2012, after which INDIA will overhaul her. PRC technology is a JOKE.
3. US
While it has been historically a superpower, because of its lax morals where women dress sexy, shave their legs and dress scantily to tempt men, reeks of promiscuity. In fact 58.8 % of the unmarried women aged 18 have lost their virginity. This will create a mass exodus in the population to adopt Islam as the religion of choice because Islamic women are not sexy, don’t shave facial hair or the hair on their legs and have sex only after they are married to make babies. Therefore the morals of Islam and Islamic Sharia laws will become dominant. But in the meanwhile this turmoil will be a potent threat to internal stability. Inspite of this, the US has adequate military forces that not only has a tradition of high quality, but can operate half a world away and still accomplish impossible and difficult missions. Sailor for sailor, with the exception of the Pakistani Navy, there is no better navy than the U.S. Navy.
The US will total war before islam is allowed to spread out of its confined range. Americans viscerally HATE mohammedism. If you do not understand this; you will be savagely surprised. It is all that our national leadership can do to sublimate the inherent national bigotry, racism, and rage that underlies the American 9-11 anger and motivates the American view 
 
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Softwar    Poster on Acid or what?   1/12/2007 2:08:10 PM

1. Pakistan – Even while fighting a war on terrorism, Pakistan is pursuing new technology (such as UCAVs) to maintain an edge over any potential challenger. The forces are well-trained, and the Pakistani Navy is still the most powerful in the world. Pakistan has the biggest and strongest army, navy and air force the world has ever seen. The term superpower greatly understates what the Islamic Republic of Pakistan can do. It is most definitely a hyper-superpower.

1 - The only "terrorism" thing Pakistan is fighting is whether the ISI will kill the current President.
2 - New technology?  Pakistan can't even produce a fighter jet on par with the 50s era MiG-19 and is currently forced to buy Chinese hand-me-down tech like the FC-1 and J-7.
3 - The Pak Navy has never wandered more than 40 miles from the coast line.
4 - The Pak Army - can perform with difficulty within its own borders but has a hard time projecting force more than 10 miles outside the nation.
5 - The Pak nuclear force consists of Chinese knock off DF-11 missiles and the Ghauri - an identical copy of the North Korean No Dong.
6 - No space.  No satellite tech.  No stealth.  No ICBMs.  Unstable.  Corrupt.  Nearly bankrupt.  Brought to its knees by a single earthquake.  No tech base and little to export other than terrorism.
 
The question for Pakistan is whether it will become a radical (poor) islamic dictatorship or eventually progress toward a peaceful democracy.  Right now - I see lots of number two dumped over your number one state.
 
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Shaheer    What?   11/5/2009 7:33:53 PM
Salam, I am a Pakistani. Dude can you please mention that why do you think that the top ten Countries will be these?
where did you left India, Turkey, Iran, Canada and why do you think that Pakistan will become the top most super power? and by the way currently our navy doesn't even rank in top ten!.
 
Well let me tell you i talked to an astrologer about this (from france). He said that future powers can be Iran India Pakistan some other Muslim states China Russia  Rsrail and Germany, i asked why he said that these countries are getting rapidly upgraded and are very passionate about there country and have really hostile enemies. I said that USA also do have hostile enemies and is currently developing very fast then why do she will not be a super power? he said that USA has created hate for herself throughout the world in Past 9 years and can go in war with almost whole world. Specially Russia, Iran, China and Pakistan hates her so much and if the four countries gets unified and attacks USA then these is no one to protect USA because these countries will have the sympathy from almost whole world. And if it happens then the remaining super powers will be Russia China India Pakistan Germany France Iran Israel and some other Muslims states. I asked why Muslim states he said that they have the money to buy and go stronger and the only problem for them is USA. This is only i could remember from that discussion since it is 1 year old. But he however didn't said that Pakistan will be at top and India will be at nowhere. And again please tell me why do you think that China and Russia will go down?
 
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Shaheer    What?   11/5/2009 7:52:49 PM



1. Pakistan ? Even while fighting a war on terrorism, Pakistan is pursuing new technology (such as UCAVs) to maintain an edge over any potential challenger. The forces are well-trained, and the Pakistani Navy is still the most powerful in the world. Pakistan has the biggest and strongest army, navy and air force the world has ever seen. The term superpower greatly understates what the Islamic Republic of Pakistan can do. It is most definitely a hyper-superpower.


1 - The only "terrorism" thing Pakistan is fighting is whether the ISI will kill the current President.
2 - New technology?  Pakistan can't even produce a fighter jet on par with the 50s era MiG-19 and is currently forced to buy Chinese hand-me-down tech like the FC-1 and J-7.

3 - The Pak Navy has never wandered more than 40 miles from the coast line.

4 - The Pak Army - can perform with difficulty within its own borders but has a hard time projecting force more than 10 miles outside the nation.

5 - The Pak nuclear force consists of Chinese knock off DF-11 missiles and the Ghauri - an identical copy of the North Korean No Dong.
6 - No space.  No satellite tech.  No stealth.  No ICBMs.  Unstable.  Corrupt.  Nearly bankrupt.  Brought to its knees by a single earthquake.  No tech base and little to export other than terrorism.

 

The question for Pakistan is whether it will become a radical (poor) islamic dictatorship or eventually progress toward a peaceful democracy.  Right now - I see lots of number two dumped over your number one state.


By the way Pakistan has become the biggest contributor to the UN peace keeping missions and you sure doesn't know it.
And Pakistan has the best tank in  South Asia "Al-Khalid" its own tech and also known as MBT of South Asia. It recently has produced jf-17 thunder it is a tech of both China and Pakistan which is a strong rival of f16 and currently it is working on JF-17x a 5th generation stealth fighter which will be a strong rival of USA F-22 raptor it will have in next couple of years. And You should know that Pakistan army is one of the most successful army in UN INTERNATIONAL PEACE KEEPING MISSIONS which includes LTTE (indian/sri lankan terrorist group) And it trains about 40 countries throughout the world And the comment about Pak Navy did your media said that? Pakistan is currently working on ICBM.And this instability is due to the most corrupted man of the world ZARDARI. And Pakistan is NOT BANKRUPT it is Zardari who had hide the money and it has been exposed, in fact Pakistan can be one of the riches countries of this world.(http://saadfudda.blogspot.com/2009/08/thar-coal-reserves.html) read it please it was stable before Zardari wasn't it? it will again become after he has gone(which can happen by the end of 2009 possibly) and the earth quake you should better look at effects of tsunami on this world, that earth quake was similar to a tsunami for Pakistan. and democracy EXIST in Pakistan the only problem currently is Zardari.
 
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Shaheer    What?   11/5/2009 7:56:20 PM
 
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