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Subject: Does the U.S. have the capability to invade and occupy Pakistan?
Roman    2/14/2004 2:27:05 PM
First of all, I should mention that I am not advocating that kind of invasion at all. In fact, I think it would be a horribly bad idea. I am asking because someone on another forum suggested it and I would simply like to clear up whether the U.S. even has the capability to do it. I do not think United States of America does have the capability. Here is my response on that forum: invading Pakistan would be an exceptionally bad move. First of all, Pakistan has nukes which it might well use to defend itself - although the U.S. would undoubtedly try to destroy them (as well as any nuclear facilities) with surprise air strikes in the initial stages of the war. Second, the U.S. would loose Pakistan's cooperation in the War on Terror thus enabling terrorists to regroup. Third, the U.S. does not have the capability to invade Pakistan. The U.S. military is already somewhat strained in Iraq (although troops are ready for another major theatre war in Korea...) so getting enough troops to invade and occupy Pakistan would be impossible. Even assuming the U.S. successfully took care of Pakistan's nukes and other WMD early on, Pakistani conventional military is vastly more powerful than the Iraqi one. On top of that, imagine the guerrilla war that would ensue... Pakistan has 150 million people the vast majority of whom are Sunni and hate the U.S. Compare that to Iraq's 25 million people of which only 20% (5 million) are Sunis that do the fighting. The word 'impossible' to occupy springs to mind... in fact, it would be impossible even if the U.S. did not have 25% of its army entangled in Iraq and did not have to stand by for another major theatre war. In any case, how would even the invasion (not to mention the occupation) of Pakistan proceed? No neighbouring country except perhaps Afghanistan would allow the U.S. to station troops on its soil for the purposes of the invasion - not even India. The U.S. would have to airlift everything to Afghanistan - but how without being allowed to use surrounding airspace? No, an invasion from Afghanistan could at best be an auxiliary, diversionary thrust - the main force would have to come from the sea, as would the majority of aircraft. It would then have to move 2,000 kilometers north through Pakistan to get to Islamabad - the capital. On top of that, large parts of Pakistan are very difficult terrain for armour and mechanized infantry to move through... Again, the word 'impossible' manifests itself prominently in my mind. Basically, the U.S. does not have the capability to even invade, not to mention occupy, Pakistan.
 
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Tigerassault    utter nonsense   5/22/2004 12:51:07 PM
1. To invade and occupy a nation like pakistan, you need a staging point, and only India can provide the infrastructure that needs. India's political regimes are very opposed to hte deployment of foreign forces on indian soil. 2. Deployment and needs massive mobilisaiton and that takes time. It also gives time for the Pakistanis to prepare themselves. Unlike the Iraqis, the Pakistanis are not yet totally ravaged by war or poverty, and are likely to fight back hard. 3. India's economy is booming. The dumbest thing it can do right now is start a war. 4. You invade and occupy Pakistan. Then what do you do with it? Its already a democracy (albeit under a military shadow) and its already whatever the Americans might want it to turn into. How do you change a fundamentalist mindset with a M16? 5. If you want to kill islamic fundamentalism you don't invade pakistan, Afghanistan or Iraq. You go and beat up the daddy of it all - you invade and democratize The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
 
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Agent KKK    RE:Does the U.S. have the capability to invade and occupy Pakistan?   6/8/2004 12:20:11 PM
I think US is not so stupid that she will attack or invade Pakistan. His own Army is stuck on Gulf region abt 43%. About capability yes she has the capability to attack even China. But from amroured, Naval and Air tactical terms she might lose huge partner, but won't get victory. Histroy tells us, abt Vietnam, how US planned with pakistan to destroy the Russians. So tha jinx of my thought is that USA can't even think to invade Pakistan without the help of other countries. USA alwayz gets support by power and attacks which she wants. Attacking Pakistan is really a bogus Idea. I even say this that India attacking Pakistan is not possible then how USA can. The question was really stupid.
 
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Herc the merc    RE:Does the U.S. have the capability to invade and occupy India?   6/24/2004 7:57:59 PM
Yes, If it had a load of cash & plenty of Scotch- Johnny Walker Blue label is the rage now- ahh don't forget give them Microsoft too & more greencards- I think so this would be over without a gunshot.
 
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Herc the merc    RE:Does the U.S. have the capability to invade and occupy Pakistan?   6/24/2004 8:04:13 PM
Yes, it is rather easy. Here is how you do it- slowly build up forces in Afghanistan. Start a Civil war with Sindh & Punjab and then invade and split the country up. Anyway if an immediate invasion is required a sustained aerial attack would do it. Its a big army but they are all holed in readily identifiable camps. A few thousand cruise missiles would be required to start the party, but why invade Pakistan most of the guys are pretty ok if they have a job, its the nutcases we need to catch and an invasion is only gonna make 'em hide and move somewhere else. Besides the the Pakistanis are chickens- they have a loud roar, but one crack of the whip & they will fold, its the fundamentalists on the streets that make it impossible politically to sustain an on foot occupation. A naval & aerial blockade is enuff.
 
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Herc the merc    RE:Does the U.S. have the capability to invade and occupy India?   6/24/2004 8:08:22 PM
Its already happening- you just got a new job in Bangalore- heres the twist- an Indian moved to Silicon Valley for a software job and refused to go back, if this keeps up the populations will switch, now bot India & US can claim to have won the invasion.
 
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wasif    RE:Does the U.S. have the capability to invade and occupy India?   6/25/2004 8:27:44 AM
would you like to explain which research shows pakis are chickens ? or it is just a thing said by You.
 
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Herc the merc    RE:Does the U.S. have the capability to invade and occupy India?   6/25/2004 1:07:15 PM
Pakistanis have a very high tendency to start trouble but really backout when somebody cracks the whip. See the recent standoff with India- as soon as that weakling Vajpayee got pushed to deploy full army on the border Musharraff caved in and forgot about Kashmir- Unfortunately most of these Arab and wanna be Arab countries have very weak spirited men. Also in the 71 war they ran off pretty quick. During Kargil Pakistani soldiers were offering bribes to their superiors to let them runaway to open a 7-11 in the US. I do disagree with western generalization that Muslims and Pakistanis are radicals or terrorists, but the days of Islamic Valor probably expired in the 15th century.
 
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Herc the merc    RE:utter nonsense   6/25/2004 1:11:47 PM
Taking over Pakistan is easier than you think, ground deployment makes no sense, but its easy to start trouble there, but why- they are nice enough a people, some crazies- not all of 'em though.
 
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Q4M-forever    Facts and Figures Do count !   6/26/2004 11:28:34 AM
Talking about the Pak - India Confrontations is battle field. The lets go to History. 1965 - India Intruded into the Sialkot and Lahore crossing the Line of control, Brigaddier Commander of 16 Bde Infantry ordered Indian Army to attack Pakistan from Sialkot and Lahore sector in the area of Dhoke . 17 days of war India Lost their own land 132 km approx. 1971 - West Pakistan (Pakistan) becomes under severe criticism by Bengal Govt especially by Majub-ur-rehman to transfer the govt assets and give the Dhaka the status of Capitol rather then Karachi and Dhaka will control the Govt decision as it had more majority then in west Pakistan. Gen Yayha Khan then president and Martial Law admisitrator flew to Dhaka for consultations but riots took place and Indain govt especially RAW came and supported the Bengal Govt and supplied arms and intellignce to the Bengal Army and War took place and we lost the east Pakistan. Kargil .. Interesting.... waite for complete facts and figures from ur Then Govt and RAW. and give u the whole report abt Kargil. U must have watched the Kargil Movie of India. U know wat .. in that abt 70% is truth how u conqured the upper post. Just waite.. for now.. just read little bit abt 1965 and 1971.
 
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sanman    RE:Facts and Figures Do count !   6/26/2004 11:37:51 AM
Q4M, you're full of nonsense. Read your own Air Marshal Asghar Khan's book on 1965 war, and you'll read about how Pak govt decided to attack Indian Kashmir in what was called 'Operation Gibraltar'. The problem is that Kashmiri people did not cooperate, and helped Indian troops to evict the Pakistani invaders. Likewise, in Kargil it was the local villagers who alerted Indian troops to the Pakistani intrusions. Anyway, I find it a waste of time to debate with illiterates.
 
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