?Bottom line, if the Argentine Aircraft, armed with EXOCET missiles, was able to inflict heavy losses on the "royal" navy, think what Russian Aircraft would do... Think what Russian submarines would do, Russian missiles, Russian Destroyers, etc?? In 1982, the RN was specifically designed to combat WARPAC systems which did not include sea skimming missile systems i.e. Sea Dart was optimised and excellent at combating missiles of WARPAC doctrine and an example of this was it?s bringing down almost simultaneously of two Iraqi Silkworm missiles fired against the Allied taskforce during the 1991 Gulf War. This gap in capability was almost immediately plugged in the wake of the Falklands War with the introduction of the Phalanx, Goalkeeper and Sea Wolf VLS systems throughout the fleet.

"Then the Admiral Kuznetsov must be a Figment of the Imagination?" Well yes... It hasnt sailed since it did an exercise in the Black Sea in the sunny year of 1995! "With regards to sales of Naval Weaponry does the UK even export anything?" Yes they do. Not only are most of the Royal Navys ships sold off after use, but Type 42's have been sold, Sea Wolf, plenty of other things. "Why do you think so many nations buy billions of dollars of Russian Submarines, Destroyers, & Naval Air Craft? -" Russian Submarines were given away at a Song... still are. When compared to contempory submarines not only do they lack fightability, they lack habitally... Nations buy this subs because they cant afford, or get better ones. "Destroyers," I cant see China getting very far with regards to purchasing an Arliegh Burke of any flavour. You? "Naval Air Craft?" Which Naval Aircraft would these be? Even the Chinese fly Dauphin ASW helos off their Surface escorts. And in the Indians ever get round to deciding which plane to buy off the russians, its only because not many planes have a STOBAR config... "Because they are inferior to what is out there on the World Markets?" Bcause they are cheaper and alot more availible. "Historically, the United States has had to provide the UK Navy with the weapons & technology to keep their Navy from becoming obsolete. Think Aegis Systems & Trident Missiles." Think for a second. Which Ship in the Royal Navy has Aegis backfitted retard? Trident? well considering the twisting and turning which has happned during the UK's and US 's Deterrent policys and decisons, its not surprising that both Polaris and Trident were purchased (But you would'nt know anything about that...) " Bottomline, if the Argentine Aircraft, armed with EXOCET missiles, was able to inflict heavy losses on the "royal" navy " Again, your stupidity is showing. Duh. The Royal Navy in 1982 was designed around NATO commitments. That means the RN had certain treaty obiligations to fufil (with me at this point?). That was ASW in the North Atlantic, which the RN fleet was heavily baised. They were geared up to attack russian Submarines and defend themselves against high Level Missile attacks from things like Styx... So when the argies come along and Invade the Falkland, its a different Kettle of fish. Also despite what you're obviously thinking, the Argentines by and large were well equipped, well trained and fought bravely. The fact that the RN took a taskforce ill suited for that kind of warfare 8'000 miles south is amazing. The Russians definitely couldnt have done it. "Think what Russian submarines would do, Russian missiles, Russian Destroyers, etc... " Yeah... its a good job that they are rusting to pieces at the dockside, when no money to repair them, let alone operate them, or even train the crew. One word about the Russian Navy's incompetence? Kursk.

When are the type 45's going to be placed in service?

-HMS Daring, the first ship of the class is due to enter service in 2007, with the other batches totalling 11 progressively entering service up until 2015. They are to be known as the 'D' Class. HMS Daring, HMS Dauntless, HMS Diamond, HMS Dragon, HMS Defender and HMS Duncan have been announced as the names of the first six ships of the class.

Seems the Royal Navy was caught off guard by German-Uboats in World War 2 & Anti-ship missiles (exocet) in the Falkland War. My guess is that in the Royal Navy's next "real" naval war, Russian/Chinese Sunburn/Shipwreck cruise missles & Flanker Aircraft are going to be what inflicts the heavy losses. "Treaty Obligations" there is an excuse if I ever heard one. A fighting group is either prepared for battle or not...

"Seems the Royal Navy was caught off guard by German-Uboats in World War 2 & Anti-ship missiles (exocet) in the Falkland War. " Human, to be fair you're a stupid twit, who cant even bother to already address posts to him. But name a Navy which hasnt been caught off guard? The Japanese got arseholed at Midway, the Russians got arseholed by the Japanese, The Eliat, the USN gets caught off guard. However the Royal Navy has always managed to get the job done. The Russian Navy, hasnt... Now sit down and shut up.

the german U-boats were only that succesful in WW2 (and WW1 for that matter) because the allies had more shipping in the atlantic and the kreigsmarine had a huge submarine to surface ship ratio. but once air power was acheived over the atlantic, and the U-boat code was broken and the allies moved in convoys then the tides turned, and the germans had little success. it was primarily the merchant navy and civilian ships that were sunk by the germans anyway, they didnt go after ships that could defend themselves.

Interesting news "bite" on "Army Affairs Report" today, in addition to a brief discussion on carrier plans the reporter also included a spot on the PLAN investigating a Kirov-type ship for its forces.

------Seems the Royal Navy was caught off guard by German-Uboats in World War 2----- Look up Operation Drumbeat. -----Anti-ship missiles (exocet) in the Falkland War----- This ones been answered a thousand times before?. ------"Treaty Obligations" there is an excuse if I ever heard one. A fighting group is either prepared for battle or not..----- Look up Washington navel conference 1921 Ccooke

ccooke, in the age of iron ships, please describe a war in which the Royal Navy dominated hands down.