No more golf!?!?!?!?! Them's fightin' words!!!

"1. You were the one who said that the Gulf flowed into the mississippi." Yes it will raise the river level up to sea level, the rest will be done with pumps. "2. Who in their right mind would want to pump salt water upstream into a fresh water environment. Can it be done? With enough money and time anything can be done. But you are completely off the wall from a logic standpoint, not to mention where will Baton Rouge and a shrunking NO get their water from?" Like I said for the FIFTH TIME, they will get water from the shunt. God I really feel I need to draw you a map. "WTF? Input less sea water into the river? You are way off base. NO may be a swamp, but getting hit by large waves is what did the damage during katrina and big waves don't come from the Miss. R." Allow me to replace the word I errantly put in.. "Actually as the river level RISES they can input less sea water, making the downstream a tad lower. Anyways your whole point was that doing this would make NO get swamped. It won't. NO gets swamped because NO is a Swamp." "To do that, you'd be pumping water from the marshes, which are salty, and there is mixing in the delta region." Oh for the love of god with the strawmans arguements. YOU GO UPSTREAM. "Small inlets for local water facilities take in less volume and therefore less silt. They also don't have to transport it very far. What kind of idiot are you? What a stupid idea, even OW doesn't concoct this kind of crap. You don't know , what a moron." Oh onto Insults is the liberal. You are making strawmans arguements, all of which can be solved by engineering. "Is that some kind of scare tactic being drummed up by the SW states? Most people are going to say "what kind of an idiot moves to the desert to live?"" Nope this will be your television lineup come 2025ish, say what you want you insolent little prick. I am talking about something ANYONE WITH ANY KNOWLEDGE OF ENGINEERING KNOWS IS POSSIBLE. Condsecend to me? You are the idiot coming up with the same arguement over and over AFTER I ANSWER IT SIX TIMES. WHO IS THE IDIOT? "The population of NM and AZ together might break 3 million, but that's only two states. LA has alot more people and the rocky mountain states have already told them to take a hike when it comes to getting water." Do you even know what the Ogallala Aquifer is you simpleton? "Yes, those people can be ignored and should be ignored." Tell that to the MSM when its on television. "Oh, I'd love to see that drawing, so you are going to take fresh water away and replace it with the same system you use to drain the river? Where does the extra water come from? You haven't answered any questions, only thrown up some wild guestimations about how some half baked pump can take away enough water from the mississippi to save the SW and yet La. will not notice the water is gone because your magical little system will replace the water it is taking from some yet to be determined source." OMFG you are so stupid I'm not gonna waste any more time on you. All you can do is insult me because you cannot realize THEY DON'T USE ALL THE FRESH WATER IN THE MISSISSIPPI. Man you sure are stupid for someone acting so smart. "Im not the one proposing big boondoggle projects with federal money to benefit a small minority of idiots. You qualify as neither liberal or neocon and they'll both say "heck no" to taking their water." Neither am I, the ones proposing this are people facing the fact that our "Breadbasket" is about to become a dustbowl. I could try to explain the concepts to you but you are obviously to stupid to understand. "Colorado is a fairly conservative state and is conserving all of the water for itself, after giving up what is required by water rights law to Nebraska and Kansas. If you knew anything about the water rights wars between colorado, nebraska and kansas you might get a clue as to people's attitudes towards giving away water to someone else. The SW is screwed." Okay this points out the fact you don't know what the Ogallala Aquifer is, so you are the idiot here. Go use google, I'm done wasting my time on you. "Answered it with your little magical shunt? Yeah, let's see that drawing...and no crayon." LOL I explained this quite simply, apparently you do not have the brain power of my ten year old nephew who understands. Did you like Insulting me? Just shows you have no significant points to contend so you move on to the "shoot the messenger" course. So screw off you little prick, I tried to be nice and explain something THAT IS NOT MY IDEA BUT A PROPOSAL THAT WILL BE CONSIDERED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. Screw you and the horse you ran away on.

"No more golf!?!?!?!?! Them's fightin' words!!!" No more Great Plains Agriculture. Now them's some fighting words...

I'm done explaining this to you, I really don't care what you think. You started insulting me while I was nicely trying to convey something that is not my idea, something I have said I really don't think is the greatest idea but will be a major contender. I further tried to explain to you the what the drying up of the Ogallala Aquifer is going to mean. And for my time you insult me. So enjoy your victory, tell yourself you won this arguement, keep deluding yourself with your stupid little liberal dream world that exists nowhere but in your mind. When the droughts start and it's frontpage news maybe reality will finally snap your head out of the sand. Until then you might want to try not to insult people. It just means they aren't going to explain something to you that you obviously do not understand.

"one thing that seems to be over looked in this is that the mississippi is already experiencing low water problems during the summers. there may not be enough water to justify the rather ungodly price tag attached to the project especially if the world continues to get warmer." They have already done the calcualtions, the water is there. "you should also probably consider that the last 150 years or so have been abnormally moist and mild across much of the west. this shortage of water could easily become much more widespread than just the sw." Exactly what I have been saying, notice how I said this would be used mostly east of colorado and new mexico? Nan continues on his bashing against the SW who really isn't the target of this particular project. If he had a brain or the will to google the Ogallala Aquifer he might see the further implacation that you describe. Wonder what idiots like Nan will say when food prices rise drastically as farming land becomes a dustbowl. I fear things like that are too far outside his Agenda for him to care about.

"i would suggest that if water is diverted from the miss it's not going to be at the mouth of the river it's going to be much further up. the whole idea is to not have to pump the water rather let it run downhill as much as possible. if you start off at sea level essentially it's all uphill and that's an awful lot of water to pump 24/7. i've not looked at contour maps but i think the diversion is going to be a very long way upstream." You do know that by them putting in the pipe they can angle it how they want right?

"i would suggest that if water is diverted from the miss it's not going to be at the mouth of the river it's going to be much further up. the whole idea is to not have to pump the water rather let it run downhill as much as possible. if you start off at sea level essentially it's all uphill and that's an awful lot of water to pump 24/7. i've not looked at contour maps but i think the diversion is going to be a very long way upstream." "You do know that by them putting in the pipe they can angle it how they want right?" In fact you should look at Roman Aqueducts they will give a good visualization of the basic idea behind this concept.

I'm done passing on information I obtained from friends and family. Next time everyone can just wait fifteen years until it hits the news.

think you've conflated 2 separate problems pseudo. the sw draws a good hunk of its water from the aquifer while the great plains further north don't rely on that rather they are basically at the mercy of what falls from the sky for moisture. the great plains "problem" is that it's been abnormally wet and mild for the last century or so. remember that when lewis and clark went across they described it as the great american desert due to the lack of rainfall they experienced. if the weather patterns normalize around historical levels agriculture in the west is going to have to change how it does business quite significantly.

this isn't the kind of thing that generates big headlines like katrina. things are just gonna dry up and blow away over the next generation or so.