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Subject: Mexican Army incursions into U.S.
Night Stalker    5/22/2002 7:34:17 AM

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Also, a troubling Factor Follow-Up segment....The Mexican Army continues to make illegal incursions into the United States. Why do troops continue to cross our borders? Colorado Congressman Tom Tancredo wants to put an end to it.



 
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FAOA1    RE:Mexican Army incursions into U.S.   5/29/2002 9:25:58 PM
I agree with you concern than agents, in this case military personnel of the Government of Mexico have violated the US-MX International Border. However, I have some bad news for you. We, the United States Armed Forces made more than 18 unauthorized (illegal) incursions into Mexico during the past eleven months. The only difference in this case is that the Mexican troops (cavalry) were in hot pursuit of narco traffickers. The area where the Mexicans accidentally crossed the International Border is the same place where Unites States Uniformed and civilian personnel have crossed some four times in the past eight months. The difference in this case is that a United States Border Patrol vehicle was mistaken for the narco trafficker's SUV. Look. The area where this incursion occurred is very difficult, without GPS, to determine where one is actually located. Ambassador Davidow has already Demarched the Government of Mexico for the incursion. However, it is awful difficult to attempt to take the moral high ground when we, United States Government personnel violate the international border more frequently than personnel belong to the Government of Mexico. The armed forces of Mexico have made significant efforts to cooperate with the desires/demands of our Government ? Counter Narcotics and Border protection to prevent the transit of terrorist through Mexico to enter the United States. With all due respects to the good Congressman from Colorado, he is a politician. That, at leasts to me implies that he is more than willing to assume any position, right or wrong, if it will result iin air time on the talking head (idiot) ?news? shows.
 
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FAOA1    RE:Mexican Army incursions into U.S.   5/29/2002 9:26:16 PM
I agree with you concern than agents, in this case military personnel of the Government of Mexico have violated the US-MX International Border. However, I have some bad news for you. We, the United States Armed Forces made more than 18 unauthorized (illegal) incursions into Mexico during the past eleven months. The only difference in this case is that the Mexican troops (cavalry) were in hot pursuit of narco traffickers. The area where the Mexicans accidentally crossed the International Border is the same place where Unites States Uniformed and civilian personnel have crossed some four times in the past eight months. The difference in this case is that a United States Border Patrol vehicle was mistaken for the narco trafficker's SUV. Look. The area where this incursion occurred is very difficult, without GPS, to determine where one is actually located. Ambassador Davidow has already Demarched the Government of Mexico for the incursion. However, it is awful difficult to attempt to take the moral high ground when we, United States Government personnel violate the international border more frequently than personnel belong to the Government of Mexico. The armed forces of Mexico have made significant efforts to cooperate with the desires/demands of our Government ? Counter Narcotics and Border protection to prevent the transit of terrorist through Mexico to enter the United States. With all due respects to the good Congressman from Colorado, he is a politician. That, at leasts to me implies that he is more than willing to assume any position, right or wrong, if it will result iin air time on the talking head (idiot) ?news? shows.
 
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FAOA1    RE:Mexican Army incursions into U.S.   5/29/2002 9:26:30 PM
I agree with you concern than agents, in this case military personnel of the Government of Mexico have violated the US-MX International Border. However, I have some bad news for you. We, the United States Armed Forces made more than 18 unauthorized (illegal) incursions into Mexico during the past eleven months. The only difference in this case is that the Mexican troops (cavalry) were in hot pursuit of narco traffickers. The area where the Mexicans accidentally crossed the International Border is the same place where Unites States Uniformed and civilian personnel have crossed some four times in the past eight months. The difference in this case is that a United States Border Patrol vehicle was mistaken for the narco trafficker's SUV. Look. The area where this incursion occurred is very difficult, without GPS, to determine where one is actually located. Ambassador Davidow has already Demarched the Government of Mexico for the incursion. However, it is awful difficult to attempt to take the moral high ground when we, United States Government personnel violate the international border more frequently than personnel belong to the Government of Mexico. The armed forces of Mexico have made significant efforts to cooperate with the desires/demands of our Government ? Counter Narcotics and Border protection to prevent the transit of terrorist through Mexico to enter the United States. With all due respects to the good Congressman from Colorado, he is a politician. That, at leasts to me implies that he is more than willing to assume any position, right or wrong, if it will result iin air time on the talking head (idiot) ?news? shows.
 
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pfd    RE:Mexican Army incursions into U.S.   6/2/2002 9:28:25 AM
...one more time!
 
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pfd    RE:Mexican Army incursions into U.S.   6/2/2002 9:29:03 AM
...sorry...
 
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hexael    RE:Mexican Army incursions into U.S.   1/31/2003 7:12:39 PM
There is more to this than anybody wants to admit. Both American and Mexican forces have crossed the border in persuit of agents of the narcotic type. Times have changed from the early 1800's in which American and Mexican ties where strained. Today a legitimate reason exist, in every day missions. It is true, we do need to be more protective of our borders, especially when terrorist are currently crossing the Mexican border (this is from a special report by Geraldo Rivera, Fox TV). We need to accept this, afterall Mexico is an Ally, not some backstabber like France.
 
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GOP    Cross it many more times...   10/1/2004 5:48:08 PM
it won't be Mexico, it will be the 51st state of Los unidos Mexico. Not only do we have millions of pieces of Mexican sh**s running around illegally, but now this? This is considered a act of war by most other nations, and let me tell you Mexicans something, if Mexico wants war, they got it. Your poor mans army will be put into a meat grinder a spit out. Thanks for letting me vent
 
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Zappata    RE:Cross it many more times...   1/20/2005 8:57:39 AM
I have read all your enteries here. I give thanx to all of you how dont see my fello brothers as Mexican "" like you budy "GOP". I'm from Mexico City and full blood Native Aztec/Mayan. I'm sorry to say that my people had suffer what you guys are suffering, with Mexicans. But "GOP" if you Country ever goes to a Big war we are with you. Well would not let you guys down. I'm currently listed to atend my duties for my Country wich I Love. One of the soldier that had cross you border is one of my uncles. Hey you think you have it hard try to chase drug lord all the way from South to Central American. There is been reporst of U.S. Military and CIA crosing elligaly to Mexico. But you dont see us complain. "Y" because we fight as hard as you do, to make this a more better and peacefull place. Now if there ever was a war like you probabli wish. I would gladly take you in battle. My auntsestors great warrior, have done it fore ceturies even before there was a white man in my sacred land America. Now if you dont like it it just to bad. There was brown before white. I'am not rasis and dont hate. But if my auntsestors had the same wepon than the colonias did. American would been a different place. mechica texpopo pantli...
 
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RaptorZ    RE:Cross it many more times...   11/18/2005 3:39:30 PM
Zappata, I am intrigued by what you write. I am not sure if I am understanding what you're saying. Are you saying those with the Mayan background would fight against the Mexican's or would you fight with them against the US? Not that this will happen any time soon I can guarantee that, nor would I really want to see this happen. Mexican army crosses many times into US territory, however, it's a wasteland where they enter, they're not harming anything....though they do occassionaly shoot at US agents...
 
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kaibil    RE:so you say you want war?   1/6/2006 8:30:36 PM
after reading your stupid comment about us pieces of sh** mexicans i will like to say that altougth i respect your god given right to be a racist piece of scum,i will gladly go battle it up if i got a chance to rid the world of close minded a**holes such as yourself,after all i don"t think i will be seeing your stupid ass in any battlefield,i am a highly trained soldier,and having trained with some operators from the u.s. at the kaibil training center i got to tell you i don"t think a lot of them share your points of view,i crossed the border twice with my squad both times by mere accident while undergoing desert training,this is by no means an apology,but maybe you would like us to give the drug smugglers safe passage in to your country,so quit your bitching and get your facts straight
 
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S-2    RE:so you say you want war?/Kaibil Reply   1/6/2006 8:46:11 PM
Don't worry about it. Nobody here wants a war with Mexico, and you guys can chase narcos all day long into Texas, New Mexico, or Arizona if you need to, as far as I'm concerned. It's a "hot pursuit" issue, and we've used it plenty of times. I've great respect for the Mexican Army. I've seen your officers train in Oaxaca, and they are tough dudes. They need to be because that is some seriously tough country around there, with some very bad people in those hills. Much love from the states.
 
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Mex101    RE:Mexican Army incursions into U.S.   1/11/2006 6:28:39 PM
As far as terror is the issue, mexico was one of the first to secure its airports after sept. As far as the border goes Bad guys also use underground tunnels and aircraft to get in the US. That is what people should be talking about, not some troops/officers criss crossing the border
 
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Mex101    RE:Mexican Army incursions into U.S.   1/11/2006 6:54:00 PM
I forgat to add 11th after sept. So Its after september 11th 2001
 
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Chooch    RE:Mexican Army incursions into U.S.   1/25/2006 11:33:12 AM
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Mex101    RE:Mexican Army incursions into U.S.   1/25/2006 8:24:57 PM
"Glancey said he could not confirm whether the armed men seen at the site were Mexican Army, police officers, or drug dealers, and would not detail what markings deputies may have seen on the men's uniforms or the Humvee." Where they under Gov. pay? Curroption in Mexico is no secret, Druglords can by Veichuls and uniforms and some porly diciplined sodliers. Most incursions were for law Inforcement and in that way accidantal as it is stated at the end of that article. yes some are drugrelated and not lawenforcement. The US and Mexico have been alleis sicne WW2 and will inue. if a unloyal Soldier shoots an Amercian offical that sodlier will be treid for tresaon and curraption, Imprisament for life may be his punishment. Mexico will apologize and if it was reverse i am sure the US would do the same.
 
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