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Subject: we are here to stay
LA RAZA    11/17/2005 1:02:08 PM
all of you who want to close the borders is becouse you are scared that soon we will be the majority. why the coloniest who came from europe learn to speak the languege of the native american they were here first so shut up becouse we are doing the same thing they did.
 
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S-2    RE:we are here to stay/LA RAZA Reply   11/17/2005 2:47:54 PM
Let's swap! Care to guess what Mexico would look like in fifty years, or the United States for that matter? It'll be awhile before you are a majority. Closing the borders has a bit more to do with securing our nation than simply keeping you away. Come to America, legally. Make the effort to be a good citizen of our nation. You are welcome to do so. Don't cross our borders illegally. No nation on earth will accept that condition-including Mexico If you wish to remain Mexican, but want to work in our nation, then do so as a documented guest-worker. Return to your nation at the termination of this privilege, and reapply again-should you desire. Threaten our sovereignty, as your comments clearly do, and you'll quickly find that we are not American Indians to be placed on a reservation, and your presence will be very unwelcome.
 
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LA RAZA    RE:we are here to stay/LA RAZA Reply   11/17/2005 3:45:08 PM
you are correct i would love if all my fallow mexicans would come here legally but it take a very long time to get the permision you need. wy wait a year when you can get here in week.
 
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S-2    RE:we are here to stay/LA RAZA Reply   11/17/2005 5:02:27 PM
"wy wait a year when you can get here in week." Because 1.) It displays how little concern you have for adhering to any and all the laws of our nation; 2.) It makes you a criminal immediately. Even should you survive the journey, you live a shadow existance in most of our nation, and have none of the protections afforded to our Mexican-American citizens. Our nation is tiring of exactly those types of abuses. We welcome immigrants who wish to build lives as citizens of our great nation. We won't continue much longer tolerating the illegal entry of your citizens. Why don't you apply more of your considerable energies to building your own great nation. Mexico has more than it's share of advantages. It only lacks a sense of its possible greatness-then perhaps you'd stay. Too bad. The risks are yours, and they will become harder. Vaya con dios, mi compadre.
 
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MERKAVAbestinworld    RE:we are here to stay/LA RAZA Reply   11/17/2005 5:24:31 PM
s-2 said: “Because 1.) It displays how little concern you have for adhering to any and all the laws of our nation;” Only someone like Hans Kelsen could argue that the law should be followed because it IS the law. Law has always been the way to keep the status quo. Mexican migrants don’t care about your status quo, since they are more concerned about surviving and eating (in Mexico & USA).
 
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S-2    RE:we are here to stay/LA RAZA Reply   11/17/2005 6:22:40 PM
"Law has always been the way to keep the status quo. Mexican migrants don’t care about your status quo" Perhaps in Israel, but then you feel strongly also about Palestinians trying to enter your nation to sell goods and services. Why? Security? Why shouldn't our nation have the moral obligation to its citizens to defend the integrity of our borders? Don't like the law. Our system offers recourse, though not by breaking that law. All are welcome to immigrate, but otherwise you remain illegal. Merkavabestinworld, if Israeli, take care of your own borders. Should we decide to defend ours as aggressively as Israel, I doubt LA RAZA will be surviving or eating much in America. May it come to that. Unless he should decide to emigrate legally.
 
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LA RAZA    RE:we are here to stay/LA RAZA Reply   11/18/2005 12:55:13 PM
mexico is a country fellied with corruption, have you seen the videos of Carlos Ahumada. sadly the people of mexico dont do nothing. drug dealers are the law in mexico, the goverment is their pupett. reporters from newstions cant even talk about corruption becouse of fear of been killed.
 
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S-2    RE:we are here to stay/LA RAZA Reply   11/18/2005 1:13:23 PM
I know. It's bad in Ciudad Juarez, near Texas, and many other places. Underneath, though, is an incredible country waiting to happen. Stay and fight for your brothers and sisters against the criminals and corrupt crony politicians. If you would risk your life to enter the U.S.A. illegally, why not risk it for Mexico?
 
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RaptorZ    RE:we are here to stay   11/18/2005 3:46:38 PM
La Raza I don't think anyone is saying get all Mexicans/Hispanic's/Latino's etc out of the US. I know many hard working individuals from (Primarily Mexico) Latin Countries. However, with that said, you do prove a point I tried to make and that there are nut bags out there that think they can just over run the Southern US and try to claim the land. Though it is not Originally Mexican's...nor is it Originally US....so Mexico has 0 claim on it. And the liklihood of that ever happening is very little. You need to chill...no one's asking to get rid of a people that are a benefit to the US economy, but the days of running across the border getting caught and shipped back home, only to try the next day is coming to a close. You abuse the situation and it's going to turn out bad...the freedom's you have now will be gone. I know people from Europe that are here illegally by way of Canada, but guess what no one's saying close off their border...why? B/c we're racist...no that's not why...it's b/c there arent a billion of em abusing it daily.....get the difference?
 
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Professor Fickle    RE:we are here to stay   12/8/2005 6:58:17 PM
Like Fox said "mexicans do jobs no one else will"
 
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YelliChink    RE:we are here to stay/LA RAZA Reply   12/8/2005 7:02:12 PM
Maybe it is why that the US reject Kyoto treaty, so that climate change due to green house effect will destroy Northern Europe and Russia, hence create massive European immigration flood into the US.
 
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