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Subject: When the father of my great-grandfather live half US was mexican territory
Xolotl    12/28/2005 12:08:36 AM
My name is Ivan and live in Toluca, a small city in central Mexico. This is my opinion about the historical problem that we have: The stupid hate that you have againts us. mierda. i will take a rest, I dont wrigth very well in english. i need a translator or something like that, but i will finish this message later. see you later lovely american dumps
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan    RE:When the father of my great-grandfather live half US was mexican territory   12/28/2005 1:43:36 AM
How many in your town survive on remittances from the US. If the western US still did belong to Mexico it would be that much bigger of a mess.
 
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Xolotl    RE:When the father of my great-grandfather live half US was mexican territory   12/29/2005 4:01:10 PM
Maybe most of people in their country, believe that it is stupid to continue remembering what happened in 1846, they would be right if these territories had been sold in an irresponsible way on behalf of the Mexican government, but I have them a surprise: The American government was who cause the war The American government was who it invaded us and I profane our homeland The American government was who by means of lies spoil to our homeland of his territory For that reason I and all the Mexican patriots will continue remembering these events for always, you stole us since cynically and in the worst way that was our.
 
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Xolotl    RE:We have the truth   12/29/2005 4:32:24 PM
and why I say all this?, because although we hate them with all our soul, it is impossible that you return us these territories, but apparently, but of 150 years you don't have changing anything, and do they even continue believing that the states of California, Arizona and the other states, do you belong them and were they always there. And you continue are their patriotic stupidity, for example, "Here we don't want immigrants", "we don't need them", "Return for where you came" the less than you could make, hypocrites' flock, is to allow each Mexican to enter freely, at least in the states that are our for right. It is certain that in my country there is great backwardness, but not because we are inferior or dumps, the reason is, because the government manages bad to our people and the corruption and the impunity govern the life in Mexico. Our politicians are garbage, it is certain, but their politicians are not very different to ours. Their politicians invade to other nations and they lash their people under the banner of the freedom. (a sentence that your government of uses as the sacred cause of his will). and do I wonder that is for you freedom?, if at all freedom and is justice does to invade countries of the third world, to force them have to make their will, while you destroy their people?, is their concept of freedom that strangles a government by means of alone economic sanctions because they has another concept different to the capitalism, if this its concept of freedom is, that god forgives you for such a mistake.
 
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displacedjim    RE:We have the truth   12/29/2005 4:52:38 PM
Feel free to apply for a Visa and come visit America for as long and as often as you wish. Feel free to apply for immigration into America through the legally-established channels and come to America to stay. Attempt to illegally immigrate into America and feel free to die on the border. I expect no more and no less in return if I ever wish to come to Mexico. Displacedjim
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan    RE:We have the truth   12/29/2005 4:59:32 PM
"The American government was who it invaded us and I profane our homeland The American government was who by means of lies spoil to our homeland of his territory " You mean native american homeland.
 
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JustMe44    RE:We have the truth   4/5/2006 8:02:33 AM
Here's the truth, Ivan. You are making yourselves victims. Anytime people make themselves victims, they're doomed to failure. America bought that land from Mexico, which wasn't even Mexicos, to begin with. It may not seem like a lot of money in today's world, but it was a whole lot of money way back then. Don't fall into the trap of your leaders trying to place your hate towards their wrongdoings onto Americans so they can continue to get by with being, what sounds like a very corrupt government. Sounds like Mexicans need a war to take back their government.
 
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Mex101    RE:We have the truth   4/5/2006 3:24:13 PM
First off all This Land does not belong to anyone left alive, Thier ancesstry is mixed with Euro and Native blood. "This Land is my land, this land is your land. from the..." Notice that it says this land is your land, that was part of a well known US folk song. Yes the US stole it, partially. If the didn't do it Mexico would off found that lovley gold, and become rich as the US did, Mexico's political structure would of not been destroyed like it was in the war, and it would be as strong as the US. However, the American civil war may of not accured. Slavory would stain its name. Mexico would never have the leaders like Juarez and thus the Catholci church would ben incharge, and all poor would suffer, plus there would be a middle class with no power what so ever, it would be a monarchy. yes the US basicly stole it, it was Polk's plan the whole time. But it eventually caused good thing in each country. God punished the US with the Civil war and all the chaos before and after it. Mexico got the leaders that are to blame for Fox's Election and the fact that PRI might lose agains thus ending their control over the Government for 70 years. Xolotl, I don't know if you even remember this website, but both nations got goods and bads after the war. Others, The us indeed stole it, but not without the protests and pressure from many Americans, and I mean Many. "To the Escape Pod1 I REGRET NOTHING!!"
 
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EddieV    RE:We have the truth   4/10/2006 2:10:23 PM
I don't understand why some Mexicans whine that much about their neighbors to the north, when they behave far worse with their neighbors to the south. Do you want to have fully access to the US? Well, you should start by opening your borders with Guatemala. You complain about the territories the US stole? You did the exact same with Chiapas, Yucatan and Quintana Roo.
 
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Mex101    RE:We have the truth   4/11/2006 9:42:16 PM
>>>Do you want to have fully access to the US? Well, you should start by opening your borders with Guatemala. You complain about the territories the US stole? You did the exact same with Chiapas, Yucatan and Quintana Roo.<<< that is why many sane Mexicans stay put. By the way, Guetemala is a highway of drugs that runs strait through Mexico han ends at CANADA. Not to mention the zapatistas.
 
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Mex101    RE:Deffrence between Southern US and Mexican States.   4/12/2006 4:01:50 PM
>>>Do you want to have fully access to the US? Well, you should start by opening your borders with Guatemala. You complain about the territories the US stole? You did the exact same with Chiapas, Yucatan and Quintana Roo.<<< Um.. The Aztecs ruled that land when the Spanish came, right? Mexican Capital is based on their old capital, Right? Mexico Declared independence and had claimed those lands as part of the new Aztec/Mayan/Armenian nation, Right? The US went to war with Mexico in order to force the purchase of the territories in question, Right? It was an American war of imperialism, Right? No freedoms were threatened except the NO slavery law Mexico had that caused Texas to leave the Union, Right? So if Mexico was annexed their would of been one less freedom in the world, Right?
 
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