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Subject: RECONQUISTA movement
swhitebull    8/24/2003 5:43:44 AM
TO followup from the Israeli board:

Some websites on the movement, op-eds and such

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Cant attest to their accuracy- they may be looney right wingers, but its a start.


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Panther    RE: To: swhitebull   8/24/2003 11:09:37 AM
It's quite obvious that there might be a minority who believe in the reconquista movement being able to retake the southwest U.S. While something like that might be in some people's minds[Although a tiny minority]. To retake is one thing, to hold is quite another! I feel America is still an armed camp, With our current military, national guard, reserves, milita's, and individual gun owner's, that in any attempt to retake the southwest would result in a bloodbath for the reconquista movement! Hopefully, there is no truth to it and it's all just a conspiracy theory! If not, then all i can say is that i'm glad i've got my 20 gauge and 12 gauge pump shotgun to protect me and my country! LOL
 
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Panther    RE: To: swhitebull   8/24/2003 11:09:50 AM
It's quite obvious that there might be a minority who believe in the reconquista movement being able to retake the southwest U.S. While something like that might be in some people's minds[Although a tiny minority]. To retake is one thing, to hold is quite another! I feel America is still an armed camp, With our current military, national guard, reserves, milita's, and individual gun owner's, that in any attempt to retake the southwest would result in a bloodbath for the reconquista movement! Hopefully, there is no truth to it and it's all just a conspiracy theory! If not, then all i can say is that i'm glad i've got my 20 gauge and 12 gauge pump shotgun to protect me and my country! LOL
 
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Panther    RE: To: swhitebull   8/24/2003 11:09:58 AM
It's quite obvious that there might be a minority who believe in the reconquista movement being able to retake the southwest U.S. While something like that might be in some people's minds[Although a tiny minority]. To retake is one thing, to hold is quite another! I feel America is still an armed camp, With our current military, national guard, reserves, milita's, and individual gun owner's, that in any attempt to retake the southwest would result in a bloodbath for the reconquista movement! Hopefully, there is no truth to it and it's all just a conspiracy theory! If not, then all i can say is that i'm glad i've got my 20 gauge and 12 gauge pump shotgun to protect me and my country! LOL
 
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Panther    RE: To: swhitebull   8/24/2003 11:10:03 AM
It's quite obvious that there might be a minority who believe in the reconquista movement being able to retake the southwest U.S. While something like that might be in some people's minds[Although a tiny minority]. To retake is one thing, to hold is quite another! I feel America is still an armed camp, With our current military, national guard, reserves, milita's, and individual gun owner's, that in any attempt to retake the southwest would result in a bloodbath for the reconquista movement! Hopefully, there is no truth to it and it's all just a conspiracy theory! If not, then all i can say is that i'm glad i've got my 20 gauge and 12 gauge pump shotgun to protect me and my country! LOL
 
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Panther    RE: Sorry about that!   8/24/2003 11:11:43 AM
My 'puter went haywire on me!
 
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swhitebull    RE: Sorry about that!   8/24/2003 1:19:17 PM
not a problem- my thoughts are that what cant be achieved by actual armed forces- a very unlikely scenario, but thru outbreeding the indigenous anglo population. swhitebull- reconquest thru population explosion (same thing the PALIS vow to do to the israelis should they be granted the right of return)
 
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Panther    RE: Sorry about that!   8/24/2003 2:31:08 PM
A scary thought indeed! However, i don't see the older hispanic generation buying into the reconquista crap. But, if history is a guide, The struggles their parents have gone through will be lost on each successive generations. Where our love for our country and belief for what it stands for, won't necessarily be theirs! Although, what i have said is all purely conjectural! I hope it doesn't pan out that way!
 
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American Kafir    RE: Sorry about that!   8/24/2003 7:47:14 PM
If you look at various "reconquista" and "Atzlan" websites it doesn't take long to find anti-Semitic articles, cartoons, etc. Just once, I'd like to see Catholic left-wing nationalists / racial fascists rally against some other group. You know, break up the monotony.
 
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Panther    RE: To: jewe   9/22/2003 8:31:18 PM
Hello jewe, That's true, but the mere mention of them trying to reclaim what they already lost is repugnant to many in the hispanic community. Many of them are immigrants from their countries civil war, poverty, crime, and corruption that to support such a notion would be yet seen as another failure on them as a people and culture. While i won't ("hopefully") see that in my life time. It is always a possibility that the sheep can be led astray by the worst sort of individual who would yet put another stigma on their still narrow shoulders! I say if they do try to carve some terrortiry from the U.S., then be prepared to pay the price as us southerners have in the last civil war, who would look down on them just as harshly as the rest of the country! Hence "They got it so good" why rock the boat!
 
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timon_phocas    RE: To: panther   9/22/2003 9:18:13 PM
>They will (hispanics) outnumber other groups in the SW. And as long as America is a democracy they can elect leaders that will declare independence in the USA.> Did't someone try that before and fail? You might be just whistling Dixie!
 
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Panther    RE: To: panther   9/23/2003 6:23:00 AM
"For some-one, his national heritage/identity is more important then having a good rich life" hhhmmmmmmmmmm... my english side can respect your opinion, however the commanchee in me says that that case just doesn't hold much water! That's a case of who was here first And somehow more than half of my heritage has you all beat on that issue! Anyhow, Welcome to the great melting pot of the world where everybody has no blame, and everybody has staked a claim! In other words lawsuits! ;-)
 
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Panther    RE: To: panther   9/23/2003 6:36:04 AM
jewe, Also, i do agree with you on cracking down hard on the borders!
 
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ChrisWI    RE: To: panther   9/26/2003 7:02:14 PM
Yeah, we gotta secure the border better
 
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Scorpene    RE:RECONQUISTA movement   10/6/2003 7:57:52 AM
Some observations on Hispanics in Texas-- I have never heard Hispanics talking about reconquistas here. Most are hard working, very law abiding, and civil. Many are conservatives, and politically they tend to be rather fragmented. Lots of different folks. There is a huge difference between recent Mexican immigrants and U.S. Hispanics. The U.S. Hispanics will make sure you know it. There are quite a few Hispanic/Anglo couples I see, but very few mixtures of Asians, blacks, or other. I do not see a racial divide developing between Hispanics and whites. When you have a racial conflict down here, it is just about guaranteed that it is between black citizens and another group-- often Hispanics. Most Hispanics don't want an overregulated, corrupt, high-tax nation run by elites. That last sentence describes Mexico to a T.
 
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Panther    RE:RECONQUISTA movement   10/6/2003 2:59:02 PM
"Most Hispanics don't want an overregulated, corrupt, high-tax nation run by elites. That last sentence describes Mexico to a T." And that's not to mention the vast majority of other south american nations! I said it once and i'll say it again..., when you have it so good, why rock the boat!
 
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