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Subject: William F. Buckley
Hugo    2/27/2008 2:49:54 PM
A somewhat conservative forum and no threads on the death of one of the fathers of US conservatism (or have I just missed it)?

No views on a very interesting character?
 
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RockyMTNClimber    A Brilliant man has gone on to bigger things.   2/27/2008 3:10:53 PM
 
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xylene       2/27/2008 4:17:38 PM
I did love his use of extensive vocabulary. I used to regularly watch Firing Line.
 
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eldnah       2/27/2008 5:18:44 PM
WFB to smart for everyone except Charles Krauthammer.  
 
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eldnah       2/27/2008 5:22:05 PM
Aaaaagh!  "Too" smart.
 
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VelocityVector       2/27/2008 5:52:20 PM

I have mixed feelings.  Upsides, WFB helped elevate conservatism and American exceptionalism in the US political dialogue.  He improved my vocabulary.  Downsides, I disagreed with some of WFB's views, especially those regarding racial minorities and their assimilation into our society and the proper role of religion in US government.  He also promoted elitism simply for its own sake, slavishly borrowing from the UK aristocracy.  His economic and political positions were either hit or miss in terms of their reasoning and support with some spectacular logic failures and blind faith.  Finally, I read several WFB "Blackford Oakes" novels as a kid and even then detected implausibilities that prevented me from buying in to the plots.  WFB was his own man in some ways like Hugh Hefner -- I was never a particularly keen fan of either man but must admit that I tended to like Hefner's published works a bit better during my formative years.

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timon_phocas    William F. Buckley Jr.    2/28/2008 5:58:23 PM
I saw Mister Buckley in Redding, California back in 1978 or 1979. He had been scheduled for an earlier date but had to reschedule because of illness.  He graciously came back to this backwater town to fulfill his promise. His talk was insightful and humorous.

One of the topics was a recently televised debate about the treaty turning over the Panama Canal to the Panamanians. Ronald Reagan spoke against the treaty and William F. Buckley spoke in favor of the treaty. Buckley, of course, sliced and diced Mister Reagan's arguments into rhetorical mincemeat. A bit later, Mister Buckley went up to visit Reagan at his  Santa Barbara Ranch . As he  drove up the winding road to the house he saw that Reagan had painted large signs on butcher paper and posted them on the hillside. "We Paid For It," "We Built It," and , "It's Ours! "

I remember most an account he gave of an conversation he had with Richard Nixon in 1969. He was invited to speak with the president and was escorted into the Oval Office where he saw President Nixon and Attorney General John Mitchell. As the conversation progressed, President Nixon asked him why he had supported Ronald Reagan at the 1968 Republican Convention. Mister Buckley said he supported Ronald Reagan, "...because he is the only conservative who doesn't care what the Eastern Liberal Establishment thought of him."  At this, Buckley related, President Nixon puffed up and said, "Well, I don't care either!" Nixon pointed to the Attorney General and said, "John, you tell him I don't care!" This was spoken in jowlly imitation of Nixon's voice and with that singular humorous expression he had.

The story encapsulated my definition of the ideal conservative and is my enduring personal memory of William F. Buckley.

 
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jastayme3       6/26/2008 3:47:11 PM

A somewhat conservative forum and no threads on the death of one of the fathers of US conservatism (or have I just missed it)?

No views on a very interesting character?

A great gentleman and a great pundit. He knew how to dissaggree without being shrill or hateful and how to be civil to his
opponents. And when he did insult someone it was with the deadly but aestheticly pleasing subtlety of a rapier, rather then the gross and ponderous brutality of an artillery barrage. He knew how to fight with elegance in a world that has forgotten how. That is one thing for which I think he should be remembered.
 
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