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Subject: Circumstantial Evidence?
CJH    6/15/2008 10:11:11 AM
1. Obama has strong support among affluent Americans.

2. Affluent Americans (and wealthy Democrats) generally are investing their income into commodities (speculation) hedge funds.

3. New petroleum production would cause hedge funds and speculators generally to either just not make money or to outright lose money.

4. Obama as well as Democrat politicians generally advocate an energy policy the chief aspect of which is the restriction of new petroleum production.

Even if there is no real conection here, appearances are at least a little damning.

Wouldn't it be nice if someone asked Obama if he has money invested in a way which benefits from high demand and low supply.
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan       6/15/2008 4:26:49 PM
How many Republicans, including McCain, have similar investments?
 
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YelliChink       6/15/2008 10:13:43 PM

How many Republicans, including McCain, have similar investments?

Heck if I had so much money I would have done the same.

There are two reasons that oil and commodity price got so high. The first is falling value of US dollar, and the second is the mild recession triggered by sub prime mortgage. Instead of buying stock and real estate in the US, hot money management agencies instead put money on crude oil and commodity. That's reasonable, since all these are still required even in a global recession, and thus provide stability of investment in the time of risk.
 
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jastayme3       6/15/2008 11:04:03 PM

1. Obama has strong support among affluent Americans.

2. Affluent Americans (and wealthy Democrats) generally are investing their income into commodities (speculation) hedge funds.

3. New petroleum production would cause hedge funds and speculators generally to either just not make money or to outright lose money.

4. Obama as well as Democrat politicians generally advocate an energy policy the chief aspect of which is the restriction of new petroleum production.

Even if there is no real conection here, appearances are at least a little damning.

Wouldn't it be nice if someone asked Obama if he has money invested in a way which benefits from high demand and low supply.
I have money invested in a way which benefits from high demand and low supply. So does my dad. So does every one in the entire world that invests in anything. That is the goal of investing, to ensure that you posess things when the demand is high and the supply is low.

 
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Herald12345    If it is in oil.   6/15/2008 11:42:40 PM



1. Obama has strong support among affluent Americans.



2. Affluent Americans (and wealthy Democrats) generally are investing their income into commodities (speculation) hedge funds.



3. New petroleum production would cause hedge funds and speculators generally to either just not make money or to outright lose money.



4. Obama as well as Democrat politicians generally advocate an energy policy the chief aspect of which is the restriction of new petroleum production.



Even if there is no real conection here, appearances are at least a little damning.



Wouldn't it be nice if someone asked Obama if he has money invested in a way which benefits from high demand and low supply.

I have money invested in a way which benefits from high demand and low supply. So does my dad. So does every one in the entire world that invests in anything. That is the goal of investing, to ensure that you posess things when the demand is high and the supply is low.


You don't mind if I try to force you short with another viable PLENTIFUL energy supply?

Herald
 
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jastayme3       6/16/2008 6:07:21 AM







1. Obama has strong support among affluent Americans.





2. Affluent Americans (and wealthy Democrats) generally are investing their income into commodities (speculation) hedge funds.





3. New petroleum production would cause hedge funds and speculators generally to either just not make money or to outright lose money.





4. Obama as well as Democrat politicians generally advocate an energy policy the chief aspect of which is the restriction of new petroleum production.





Even if there is no real conection here, appearances are at least a little damning.





Wouldn't it be nice if someone asked Obama if he has money invested in a way which benefits from high demand and low supply.


I have money invested in a way which benefits from high demand and low supply. So does my dad. So does every one in the entire world that invests in anything. That is the goal of investing, to ensure that you posess things when the demand is high and the supply is low.



You don't mind if I try to force you short with another viable PLENTIFUL energy supply?

Herald
Go ahead, that's how the game is played.
Except I didn't say it was energy I was selling.

 
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jastayme3       6/16/2008 6:09:45 AM







1. Obama has strong support among affluent Americans.





2. Affluent Americans (and wealthy Democrats) generally are investing their income into commodities (speculation) hedge funds.





3. New petroleum production would cause hedge funds and speculators generally to either just not make money or to outright lose money.





4. Obama as well as Democrat politicians generally advocate an energy policy the chief aspect of which is the restriction of new petroleum production.





Even if there is no real conection here, appearances are at least a little damning.





Wouldn't it be nice if someone asked Obama if he has money invested in a way which benefits from high demand and low supply.


I have money invested in a way which benefits from high demand and low supply. So does my dad. So does every one in the entire world that invests in anything. That is the goal of investing, to ensure that you posess things when the demand is high and the supply is low.



You don't mind if I try to force you short with another viable PLENTIFUL energy supply?

Herald


Except that if the demand doesn't go up or your supply go down-even in a "plentiful" commodity you are out of luck.
 
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jastayme3       6/16/2008 1:07:31 PM














1. Obama has strong support among affluent Americans.







2. Affluent Americans (and wealthy Democrats) generally are investing their income into commodities (speculation) hedge funds.







3. New petroleum production would cause hedge funds and speculators generally to either just not make money or to outright lose money.







4. Obama as well as Democrat politicians generally advocate an energy policy the chief aspect of which is the restriction of new petroleum production.







Even if there is no real conection here, appearances are at least a little damning.







Wouldn't it be nice if someone asked Obama if he has money invested in a way which benefits from high demand and low supply.



I have money invested in a way which benefits from high demand and low supply. So does my dad. So does every one in the entire world that invests in anything. That is the goal of investing, to ensure that you posess things when the demand is high and the supply is low.




You don't mind if I try to force you short with another viable PLENTIFUL energy supply?

Herald



Except that if the demand doesn't go up or your supply go down-even in a "plentiful" commodity you are out of luck.
Yep, that's how it goes. That is how it has always gone.Complaining about it is like complaining about weather.

 
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CJH       6/16/2008 4:53:49 PM
But what if there are legislators who both work to keep oil off the markets and are making and/or have significant contributors making money off of high demand-low supply?
 
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Herald12345    Actions trumps words.   6/16/2008 5:05:32 PM

























1. Obama has strong support among affluent Americans.









2. Affluent Americans (and wealthy Democrats) generally are investing their income into commodities (speculation) hedge funds.









3. New petroleum production would cause hedge funds and speculators generally to either just not make money or to outright lose money.









4. Obama as well as Democrat politicians generally advocate an energy policy the chief aspect of which is the restriction of new petroleum production.









Even if there is no real conection here, appearances are at least a little damning.









Wouldn't it be nice if someone asked Obama if he has money invested in a way which benefits from high demand and low supply.




I have money invested in a way which benefits from high demand and low supply. So does my dad. So does every one in the entire world that invests in anything. That is the goal of investing, to ensure that you posess things when the demand is high and the supply is low.





You don't mind if I try to force you short with another viable PLENTIFUL energy supply?

Herald




Except that if the demand doesn't go up or your supply go down-even in a "plentiful" commodity you are out of luck.

Yep, that's how it goes. That is how it has always gone.Complaining about it is like complaining about weather.



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