Michelle Malkin had a couple of posts on, presumably, this event on June 26 and June 28. There might have been come coverage on HotAir; I?m not sure. Regrettably, there seems to be little coverage outside the Phoenix area.

This looks like a god argument for a severely closed border; all who cross must be photographed, fingerprinted, possess proper paperwork and be checked for wants/warrants/etc. Uncomfortably close to a police state, but better than being the guy in Phoenix. Perhaps this is a suitable reason for using 0.25" cold-rolled stainless steel 4x8 sheets as underlayment for the siding on the front of one?s house.

Since these guys were wearing full body armor, I wonder which would be the better response: an M-1A with an assortment of hunting loads or a 12-ga loaded with alternating rifled slugs and buckshot. Perhaps a large crossbow, with battery-powered cocking, . . . . . .

Properly executed, this is a form of attack that is all but insurmountable for a private citizen. The only real choice you have is escape or hiding and that assumes the egress routes are not covered. Not much chance of escape in a well run cordon and search. Hiding is another option. If it's bad guys doing this to you then if you can remain hidden long enough for the real police to arrive you will probably make it out alive.

 

If you have to shoot, the weapons you have aren't as important as where you put the rounds. Once you start shooting they will know exactly where you are and they will converge on you probably with the benefit of covering fire, explosives and/or distraction devices and maybe even CS. You are basically screwed. You would have to hit multiple attackers probably in the dark with well placed center mass and head/groin shots while moving and while being shot at with rifles or SMGs. That kind of skill is beyond 99% of shooters. Then even if you have the skill, it's still luck to not get shot and fatally wounded yourself.

 

I attended a private course and one of the scenarios involved 7 targets and one friendly target from 1 meter to 25 meters with the students drawing from a holster firing and rushing forward through the attackers which was designed to simulate a gang mugging in an alleyway where you are blocked in. It was a really intense situation and the instructors only counted head and heart shots on an anatomically correct target. VERY DIFFICULT. The scenario was rehearsed with 200 rounds prior to the timed and graded test. In real life, most people wont have such training and there is no time to rehearse. Not good odds. Even for an experienced shooter unless you can practice all the time(2 to 3 times a week) as these kinds of skills are perishable. I think I have some of the the private training I offered which involves a lot of shooting while moving on my Youtube page but BW is too limited here for me to check right now. BUUUUT...

This may, or may not have any bearing here, but IIRC a documentary I once saw had an interview with a Sicilian mafia assassin who referred to having replaced the shot in his shotgun rounds with cut nails in preparation for an assassination (perhaps of a government witness).

 

At first I just thought he was just trying to provide for a more extensive wound channel but then it occurred to me that he may have done this because the intended victim might be wearing a vest.

 

Any thoughts on this re the above scenario?

Our society values the ready availability of these drugs. Are our nation's drug users going to be detered by a few small scale invasions? I think not.

 

As long as they are going to pay what they are paying for the stuff, we can't stop every attempt to carry out attacks such as this.

 

 

Normally you would think hitmen would want to keep a low profile. These guys went in hard and heavy. They were even planning to ambush the police but looks like they went nuts shooting at the house and ran out of ammo. 

 

They had to have been set up locally. I can't imagine them, crossing the border in those outfits with guns or even having them in their vehicles crossing the border.

 

I agree with Darth, most people, even people trained with firearms would not have a chance in such an ambush. I just hope this is not the beginning of a new form of violence in the US Southwest. The type that has been plaguing Mexico last couple of years.