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Subject: Fox Is THE Radio Free America
CJH    10/24/2009 10:52:59 AM


?Radio Free America? by Cal Thomas

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During the Cold War, the Voice of America and Radio Free Europe were among the broadcast entities that effectively penetrated the Iron Curtain to deliver truth to the "captive nations" that were being fed a steady dose of propaganda by their communist rulers. Those dictators did everything they could to "jam" the signals so that their people would only hear what their unelected overseers wanted them to hear. Contemporary versions of jamming and other forms of censorship occur today in Venezuela, Cuba and many other places where dictators believe public ignorance is essential to their unchallenged rule.

While the Obama administration is the product of an election, its approach to Fox News Channel, conservative talk radio and possibly the Internet appears similar to dictators who desire control over the flow of information in order to enhance their power.

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Political leaders, going back to our founding, have criticized the press. It never works, because after the politicians leave office, the press remains. If the administration is seeking approval for its policies, it should go on the only channel that will confront, examine and question those policies. If the policies are valid, they will stand; if not, they won't and they shouldn't. But perhaps, like those dictators, the administration would rather jam Fox's "signal" because they don't want the public to know the truth about what they are doing.

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CJH    Yes, That Little Cowardly Man inthe White House Is Still Bullying   10/24/2009 11:01:35 AM
What I don't understand is how can Obama persist in this direction knowing what this makes him out to be in the eyes of the (honest) world.

That is even more damning than merely doing what he's doing.

He just doesn't care.

The 'post-partisan' president makes an enemies list

 
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Nanheyangrouchuan       10/24/2009 4:53:14 PM
And the Bushies took a more back door approach, allowing telecoms to control content on "their" networks.
 
At least net neutrality is a real policy.  Fox news is more like Radio Free Hot Air.
 
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usajoe1       10/24/2009 11:08:54 PM

Going to war with the most powerful 24/7 news organization in America shows how inexperienced, and plane stupid this administration is.

 
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Jimme       10/25/2009 4:31:50 AM

And the Bushies took a more back door approach, allowing telecoms to control content on "their" networks.

 Yeah something that not only is Obama in agreement on, he is actually trying to expand it.

At least net neutrality is a real policy. 
 
Yeah like the naysayers snitch site where everyone could have reported blogs that don't agree with BHO's policies. 
 
Fox news is more like Radio Free Hot Air.
 
Without fox news we would never have known about Van Jones, the Acorn scandal, The plan to ram a BS health bill  no one even read down our throats, would have never even known about the tea parties, the Mao fan club in our government, the child molester that got off with a year time served for raping 2 little girls over 4 years, Charles Rangles tax cheating, Pelosi's lack of memory, the great good water boarding has done to keep us safe ect...

O'Reilly , Gretta, Wallace, Hume and Cavuto are the most objective people in all of news mdia, their only "agenda" is the truth, period.

 
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usajoe1       10/25/2009 4:45:28 AM
O'Reilly , Gretta, Wallace, Hume and Cavuto are the most objective people in all of news mdia, their only "agenda" is the truth, period.
I would not put O'Reilly in that group. I agree that the fox NEWS people like Wallace, and Hume are some of the best in the game, but O'Reilly is an opinion guy like Beck and Hannity. I know he is not as far to the right as those guys, or at least he tries not to be lately, but he has opinion show and is a conservative.
 
Fox those not hide who they are. Beck and Hannity say they are conservative opinion guys, but Fox also has news guys like Wallace who are top class guys. That is more than I can say for CNN and especially MSNBC, or as I like to call them Team Obama. Those Two networks are almost 24/7 Obama cheerleaders.
 
One more thing: I can't stand Gretta for some reason, she needs to go!
 
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CJH       10/25/2009 1:19:01 PM

And the Bushies took a more back door approach, allowing telecoms to control content on "their" networks.

 

At least net neutrality is a real policy.  Fox news is more like Radio Free Hot Air.


The telecoms aren't in a position to force a Chavez like censorship on the media. If youdon't like what they are doing, you can always start up your own and implement your own policy.
Government control isn't "neutrality". And that's where the Obama-ists want to go.

 
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CJH       10/25/2009 1:19:10 PM

And the Bushies took a more back door approach, allowing telecoms to control content on "their" networks.

 

At least net neutrality is a real policy.  Fox news is more like Radio Free Hot Air.


The telecoms aren't in a position to force a Chavez like censorship on the media. If you don't like what they are doing, you can always start up your own and implement your own policy.
Government control isn't "neutrality". And that's where the Obama-ists want to go.

 
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CJH       10/25/2009 1:23:01 PM

Going to war with the most powerful 24/7 news organization in America shows how inexperienced, and plane stupid this administration is.


Stupidy is a constant theme in and around the White House now.
My understanding is that stupidity is an inevitable outgrowth of pride. And Obama has no lack of pride.
 

 
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan       10/25/2009 4:57:32 PM




And the Bushies took a more back door approach, allowing telecoms to control content on "their" networks.



 



At least net neutrality is a real policy.  Fox news is more like Radio Free Hot Air.







The telecoms aren't in a position to force a Chavez like censorship on the media. If youdon't like what they are doing, you can always start up your own and implement your own policy.


Government control isn't "neutrality". And that's where the Obama-ists want to go.





Actually each telecom does have the complete ability to control what goes out over its pipelines, but you don't have one clue as to how that stuff works so keep swallowing the kool aid and throwing bibles at gay people.
 
Gov't control of how corporations manage the internet is neutrality, even more so when you consider that DARPA provided the seed funding for the internet.  If HP, ATT, IBM or Xerox had bought into the idea, things would be much much worse.
 
 
Dumb, stupid conservatives.
 
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Le Zookeeper    during the cold war   10/25/2009 11:06:36 PM
voa was a joke where i lived, and today fox news is another joke--bill o really and sean funnity are funny not much else. where i grew up jesus and voa were propaganda.
 
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Le Zookeeper    during the cold war   10/25/2009 11:08:56 PM
reagan started deficit financing- that was the end of America - as GW said voodoo economics -as herc said ponzi is us.
 
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Le Zookeeper    BBC rules FOX sux, CNN is ok, 40 years in America- no trust for fox yet-get someone else   10/25/2009 11:15:37 PM

O'Reilly , Gretta, Wallace, Hume and Cavuto are the most objective people in all of news mdia, their only "agenda" is the truth, period.


I would not put O'Reilly in that group. I agree that the fox NEWS people like Wallace, and Hume are some of the best in the game, but O'Reilly is an opinion guy like Beck and Hannity. I know he is not as far to the right as those guys, or at least he tries not to be lately, but he has opinion show and is a conservative.

 

Fox those not hide who they are. Beck and Hannity say they are conservative opinion guys, but Fox also has news guys like Wallace who are top class guys. That is more than I can say for CNN and especially MSNBC, or as I like to call them Team Obama. Those Two networks are almost 24/7 Obama cheerleaders.

 

One more thing: I can't stand Gretta for some reason, she needs to go!



 
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buzzard       10/26/2009 2:28:57 PM
Actually each telecom does have the complete ability to control what goes out over its pipelines, but you don't have one clue as to how that stuff works so keep swallowing the kool aid and throwing bibles at gay people.
 
 Did anyone ever claim that they didn't have such an ability? Nice straw man there with the added in obligatory tarring of all conservatives as religious extremists. Got a real argument hidden in there by chance? I'm betting no. When you have a corporation which can control what goes out over all competing pipes, you might have a vestige of a point. In the meantime, blocking information means you rile customers, and the word will get out. In what remains of our free market economy, you can always find another vendor. I don't need to be 'protected' from a company when I can simply stop doing business with them.

Gov't control of how corporations manage the internet is neutrality, even more so when you consider that DARPA provided the seed funding for the internet.  If HP, ATT, IBM or Xerox had bought into the idea, things would be much much worse.
 
 Government control can be neutrality if, and only if, the government decides it wants to be neutral. The minute it decides it no longer wants to be, who the hell is going to stop them? At that point they control the lot of it, and good luck looking for an alternate source.
 
China manages their networks and their news institutions. That's not quite neutral how they do it now is it?
 
Dumb, stupid conservatives.
 
 Pot. Kettle. Black.
 
Net neutrality is a power grab in search of a problem. It's also a blatant case of some companies trying to use the government against other companies to protect their bottom line (heard of Google right?). 
 
I won't bother asking you to take off your patented anti-corporate tinfoil hat because I know you love it so.
 
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sentinel28a       10/27/2009 5:00:18 AM
FDR did deficit financing.  Was that voodoo economics too, Zoo?  (Wow, that rhymed.  I'm a poet and I don't know it.)
 
Getting back on topic...Obama's "war" on Fox News is the biggest joke of all.  What, they say something about him and he can't handle it?  Poor widdle guy.  Welcome to the big league, Barack, where the entire world doesn't beat a path to your door to kiss your ass.  Presidents a hell of a lot more competent than you would've killed to have your coverage.
 
This is just incredible.  MSNBC screamed some of the worst slander against Bush possible, CBS outright lied, the NYT made it a personal vendetta to "get Bush," and Air America threatened to actually kill him.  Did Evil Bushitler call any of those organizations "not really news organizations" or shut them out of the White House, or encourage other news networks not to use their stories?  No, he pretty much just ignored them. 
 
Fox dares to question Obama, and Obama acts like they threatened to rape his dog or something.  For someone who likes to be compared to Kennedy and FDR, Obama needs to, well, grow up.  Kennedy and FDR would've just shrugged, made a joke, and got to the serious task of actually governing the country.
 
Well, FDR might have called Fox Nazis, but I doubt it.
 
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sentinel28a       10/27/2009 5:03:29 AM
I threw a D&D book at a gay person once.  What else could I do? He screwed my character out of 221 gp, the dirty bastard.  I think it was the Unearthed Arcana book.
 
Does that count? I'd hate to lose my status as an Evil Conservative.
 
 
 
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