If there were bullets headed the other way at the burglars............?

  

 

 

Crooks can always get weapons. The only way a weapons ban might work is if it were coupled with an automatic 15 year prison term for the possession of a weapon, and an automatic death penalty for the discharge of a weapon in the course of committing a crime. The alternative is Indian style lawlessness.

Indian style lawlessness- which one - major cities in INdia have very little murderous rampages -if ever-max caliber legally allowed for self defence is .32 after license to possess, and if you mean Indian reservations, there too its low. Gun violence is pecularly an American phenomenon primarily due to availability of guns. Obviously hardcore terrorists and criminals are difficult to stop anywhere, but such flare-ups as Orlando, and Ft Hood(this is tuff as its military personnel, Ninja warrior or Men who stare at goats would be an option- bad joke I know).

 

Gun crime is a myth, only due to publicity of the media. The problem is not guns, it's drug street gangs.

 

And, it's also a myth that big cities in India is gun-crime free:

timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/delhi/Gun-culture-booming-in-trigger-happy-Delhi/articleshow/5201490.cms

 

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The seizure made this year by Delhi Police has also shown a spiral in illegal firearms seized ^ 300 this year as compared to 230 weapons last year, till October 15. Apart from providing firearms, the cops say that they are facing hurdles to stop the flow of ammunition. "The problem is due to easy availability of guns, both licensed and unlicensed,'' says an official at Control Arms Foundation of India (CAFI). 

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www.centralchronicle.com/viewnews.asp?articleID=18473

 

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As many as 65 illegal gun factories have been unearthed in this crime-prone central Bihar district this year and a huge cache of arms, ammunition and gun-making materials recovered from there to the astonishment of senior officials.

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Delhi has 10million population 300 illegal guns do not make a pandemic. There are 300 population towns in US with 300 guns. And the other state u mention Bihar is a disgrace to lawlessness and the country. Thats an outright mafia state. But cities like Mimbai, Delhi . Bangalore, etc are safe from random gun violence.

www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2006"04"02"story_2-4-2006_pg7_11

 

India home to 40 million illegal small-arms

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Don't worry, India is a very populous country. It just takes a few more decades for thugs in Bihar to catch up with demand.

 

The number of people killed in all murders stateside is a fraction of the number of deaths from traffic accidents. Maybe we should ban cars. The reason most of the murders in the US involve guns is because guns are available - if they weren't, knives, axes and other implements would serve. India has a similar murder rate (the official murder rate is about half, but if you add in all the unofficial ones, India is probably similar, if not higher), despite the fact that all they have to work with is knives and homemade guns (anybody with a lathe* can make one). Nobody wants to hear it, but the reason we have a much higher murder rate than the European countries is because of blacks and Hispanics, who commit 80% or more of the (mostly intra-racial/-ethnic) murders, despite being 20% of the population.

 

* Guns aren't particularly high tech - anyone with mid-19th century technology can make a revolver. And modern gunpowder is not particularly difficult to mix.

 

Here's an amusing story published in 2002:

The Philadelphia Daily News? August 22 front-page story (mysteriously missing from its website) printed the photographs of 15 of the 41 people who have outstanding homicide warrants in the Philadelphia area. They were all visible minorities. Race, as I wrote recently, is no longer mentioned in crime stories, but photographs are sometimes allowed to tell their own story.

Not any more. Seeing all those minority suspects produced an instant reaction in the multicultural community. They acted as if they?d been the victims of a blood libel.

A quickie coalition sprang up, headed by a black PR expert named A. Bruce Crawley, (crawley-haskins@worldnet.att.net). It demanded the resignation of the editorial staff. (Coalition calls for editors' resignations, Aug. 30, 2002) Whenever that happens, there is a serious danger that management will roll over and play dead, firing the reporter or editor involved.

The coalition included Charles Bowser, a local politician whose resume includes ?Investigation of KYW-TV attacks on Black Leaders,? and Imam Shamsud-Din Ali, who, a month after the September 11th attacks, was leading a panel discussion called "Shattering the Peace: Understanding the Roots of the Sept. 11 Attacks". He?s a spokesman for a Black Muslim organization called the Majlis Ash-Shura (Council of Wise Men), which has objected to the use of the term ?Muslim? to describe the Muslim terrorists of 9/11.

The Imam was quoted as saying that the Daily News was not only racist, but also anti-Philadelphia. I don?t know what he meant by anti-Philadelphia. Maybe the paper has been writing that life is better, or at least longer, in the suburbs.

Daily News editor Ellen Foley (foleye@phillynews.com) issued an apology:

?The cover of our paper last Thursday carried mugshots of 15 of 41 suspects. They were African-American, Hispanic or Asian. These 41 were identified by the Police Department's Homicide Unit as suspects for whom murder warrants have been issued. There were no white people who were being sought for murder. [emphasis added]?

Bill Bergstrom of the Associated Press quoted Editor Zack Stalberg (zstalberg@phillynews.com) as saying that the story was ?the literal truth? - but that he was apologizing anyway.

?Stalberg said the editors decided to apologize not because of any factual inaccuracy on the cover but because of the impression it made.

''I think the cover was literally correct, but a mistake on our part because what we have to worry about is perceptions, and not just the literal truth,''[emphasis added] Stalberg said.?

Bergstrom?s Associated Press story was given various headlines across the country - NY Times: Philadelphia Paper Apologizes for Use of Photos; Boston Globe: Philadelphia Daily News apologizes but denies racial insensitivity in publishing front page mug shots; Fresno Bee: Philadelphia paper regrets mug shots' message. But my favorite is the one that Chuck Muth put on it in his email newsletter:

Paper Apologizes for "Literal Truth"

Now it happens that all the murder suspects sought by the Philadelphia Homicide Squad were, in fact, minorities. The Philadelpia/Camden Violent Crimes Fugitive Task Force, keeps a list of all the local dangerous suspects here. This list of 69 suspects includes just two (2) white men - an Italian-American wanted for violation of federal parole, and an unknown man wanted in a road rage killing.

There is, of course, such a thing as white crime in Philadelphia. The city has a Mafia, which is being brought under control as its members assimilate and give up the Old Country idea of omerta. And statistics show that one in twenty alleged Philadelphia murderers is a non-Hispanic white. Most Philadelphia murder victims are black - but whites, who make up 5 percent of the alleged killers, make up 11 percent of the victims. That means that whites are more likely to be the victims of interracial murders, or ?hate crimes? as they?re called by the Federal Government.

If no more than one in twenty murderers is white, that means that if the Daily News had printed a picture of a white suspect on their 15-mugshot cover, it would have been racially disproportionate.

Hiawatha Bray, a black technology reporter for the Boston Globe, wrote an outraged letter to the Daily News condemning the apologies:

ABOUT Friday's bizarre apology:

I'm a black journalist who could scarcely believe my eyes as I read it. A newspaper is apologizing for printing the truth? It's embarrassing and humiliating that so many murders are committed by black people, but it's the job of newspapers to publish embarrassing and humiliating truths.

No newspaper editor has any business apologizing for writing truthfully about an issue of obvious public concern just because it upsets some members of the public. Get a grip, you guys.

Hiawatha Bray

And that?s the issue: the literal truth.

Oh, by the way - the Philadelphia Daily News story resulted in the capture of two suspects. Article Produces Murder Suspects, August 29.

If anybody cares.

So what need is there to sell this FN 5 7 or whatever that Major Hasan bought privately in a store in Kileen. It has a 20 round magazine, low recoild can penetrate Kevlar. Something u think every home should come with? Caliber control is a good start for handguns/also magazine size limitations.

I was trying to just ignore your absurd, boneheaded ramblings, and even resisted the urge to suggest to others to do likewise but now I feel compelled to point out that:

 

5.7mm IS .22 CALIBER, YOU MORON.

 

What do you suggest, banning everything SMALLER than .25cal, or ,32cal, or .380cal?!?

 

On the subject of firearms, self-defense, the 2nd Amendment, etc., you are ignorant and reveal your limitations with each post.  Please do us all a favor and refrain from further demonstration of the same.