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Subject: Is There A Role For Naval FB-22
westwords2020    5/24/2006 1:29:26 PM
I don't know if the FB-22 will ever fly in any of it's versions but I was wondering if a carrier capable variant would be of any use. One variant, with a Mach 1.5 ingress/egress speed offers 1500nmi range, same as cruise missile vice 700nmi of F-35 in full stealth mode, the 400nmi of F-18E/F sans extra tanks or 250nmi of C/D models with no extra tanks. UCAV based on Pegusus ranges 1200nmi radius??? with a one way range of 3000nmi or endurance of 12 hours on station with surviellance or combat loads. FB-22 has wing mounted weapons bays capable of (there are four availible stations)capable of the 4700lbs. penetrator LGB. G loading is 6 and in all configurations a minimumn of 2 AMRAAM can be carried; this configuration uses side bays for either Sidewinder or JDAM-250lbs. Would any sensible mix in-clude a role for small 8 plane USAF and USN 8 plane squadron with 24 F-18E/Fs and 20 F-35s and 12-24 X-47B Pegasus plus four Hawkeyes and five F-18G EW aircraft or total of 77 planes and 10 helos which makes for 87 or about the maximumn load of Nimitz class. FB-22 gross was quoted at 120,000lbs so launch with less fuel and tanking from Super Hornets would be required. What are your thoughts on this?
 
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MadRat    RE:Is There A Role For Naval FB-22   5/25/2006 8:27:20 AM
Its loosely been covered in the long F-18E thread under the Fighters, Bombers and Recon Discussion Board.
 
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sidishus    RE:Is There A Role For Naval FB-22   5/25/2006 10:18:35 AM
The abortive A/F-X was to approach this capability, and the F/A-18E?F was originally intended to be an interim aircraft that woulbe replaced by such a machine beginning around 2008-2010. http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/a-x.htm But, according to one who was there...and a current CO of a VFA squadron...the Super Hornet will be around much longer than intended because, "[this]is what comes about when hard-core Hornet guys start believing their own press and making decisions based on it.
 
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displacedjim    RE:Is There A Role For Naval FB-22   5/25/2006 10:57:55 AM
How about the DoD first defines if there's a requirement for a stealthy carrier-based, long-range, heavy bombload fighter, and then if there is we can fill that requirement with whatever aircraft will do the job. If the answer is yes (and why not, that sounds to me like a great capability to have) then it sounds like a naval FB-22 could fill that role very nicely in about 10 years from now. Put a squadron on each carrier and we're ready to kick even more ass than now. Displacedjim
 
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westwords2020    RE:Is There A Role For Naval FB-22   5/25/2006 3:38:12 PM
And from longer range but I think you would have a small USN And USAF squadron each since part of the reasoning is to allow USAF to strike without regards to land bases and of course USN would want some too. When a major deployment was underway, Super Hornets and CV F-35 numbers would go down to accomodate them. Pegasus X-47B has combat radius of 2400 km with two hour loiter in target area. Weapons can include two JDAM-2000 or assorted others up to over 2000KG.
 
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kjetski    RE:Is There A Role For Naval FB-22   5/31/2006 4:04:13 PM
But, according to one who was there...and a current CO of a VFA squadron...the Super Hornet will be around much longer than intended because, "[this]is what comes about when hard-core Hornet guys start believing their own press and making decisions based on it. -snip- Oh dear, Not you again...
 
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blacksmith    No   6/2/2006 1:08:15 AM
A navalized F-22 is a different airplane.
 
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