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Subject: A sudden trend in Naval Fighters?
Shawnc    2/10/2011 6:25:38 AM
A recent report on DefenseNews.com provided some interesting details of the BAE's Naval Typhoon proposal to an Indian Navy Request For Information: h**p://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=5666415&c=ASI&s=AIR Of particular interest is that this is not a CATOBAR design, but STOBAR, as is the SAAB/BAE Sea Gripen proposal. This has started me thinking about potential markets, for while the Indian Navy's RFI includes the Super Hornet and Rafale M as well as the MiG-29K, there are some potential Naval users out there, specifically the Italian and Spanish Navies who are looking at the F-35B potentially getting canceled in two years (or costing a boatload more than they expected). Specific to both Spain and Italy, who already operate the Typhoon, converting their STOVL carriers to STOBAR configuration for Naval Typhoons be an attractive option?
 
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Shawnc    Bah, bad grammar from a rushed posting..   2/10/2011 6:30:11 AM
I meant to say:
 
Specific to both Italy and Spain, who already operate the Typhoon, would it be a an attractive proposition for these navies to convert their STOVL carriers to STOBAR configuration in order to operate Naval Typhoons?
 
As they were both designed to operate the heavier F-35B, I'm not so much worried about their deck handling and launch abilities as much as arrestor machinery space and flight-deck space for bolters.
 
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heraldabc    Takeoff runs.    2/10/2011 6:54:04 AM

A recent report on DefenseNews.com provided some interesting details of the BAE's Naval Typhoon proposal to an Indian Navy Request For Information:

h**p://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=5666415&c=ASI&s=AIR

Of particular interest is that this is not a CATOBAR design, but STOBAR, as is the SAAB/BAE Sea Gripen proposal.

This has started me thinking about potential markets, for while the Indian Navy's RFI includes the Super Hornet and Rafale M as well as the MiG-29K, there are some potential Naval users out there, specifically the Italian and Spanish Navies who are looking at the F-35B potentially getting canceled in two years (or costing a boatload more than they expected).

Specific to both Spain and Italy, who already operate the Typhoon, converting their STOVL carriers to STOBAR configuration for Naval Typhoons be an attractive option?
If the Rafale needs a catapult, then so does the Typhoon.
 
Do not be deceived by the publicity bull-manure.
 
H.
 
 
 
 
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Das Kardinal       2/10/2011 8:48:41 AM



A recent report on DefenseNews.com provided some interesting details of the BAE's Naval Typhoon proposal to an Indian Navy Request For Information:




h**p://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=5666415&c=ASI&s=AIR




Of particular interest is that this is not a CATOBAR design, but STOBAR, as is the SAAB/BAE Sea Gripen proposal.




This has started me thinking about potential markets, for while the Indian Navy's RFI includes the Super Hornet and Rafale M as well as the MiG-29K, there are some potential Naval users out there, specifically the Italian and Spanish Navies who are looking at the F-35B potentially getting canceled in two years (or costing a boatload more than they expected).




Specific to both Spain and Italy, who already operate the Typhoon, converting their STOVL carriers to STOBAR configuration for Naval Typhoons be an attractive option?

If the Rafale needs a catapult, then so does the Typhoon.

 

Do not be deceived by the publicity bull-manure.

 

H.

Pretty much. Oh sure, it could probably take off naked and with tanks full of gas fumes, but that's not very useful. Okay, maybe a basic, light A2A load which still isn't worth the price. Unless you put catapults on your carrier the only realistic options are Sea Harrier variants, if they're still in production, and that's not a very exciting option, or the F-35B if it develops as promised and doesn't end up costing an arm and a leg. But at least it exists in prototype form unlike the Loch Ness Naval Typhoon. Heck, I'd put more money on a Sea Gripen, since the Gripen was built with rough field operations in mind at least (still has the disadvantage of being a single engine, but I suppose that if you were ready to fly a single engine F-35 over the ocean...).
 
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JFKY    What a plan   2/10/2011 9:27:18 AM
Because the SeaFire was such a wonder-weapon....
 
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